Count on the Internet to bring out the pedantic comments. “Liberal” is the word used to describe pretty much anything on the “Left” in the USA.
Keep making your divisive posts about the “Liberals” vs the “Left” though. Trying to make sure you aren’t boxed in with any other “Left” pointing groups will definitely help bring people together to change the current state of things…
Getting people to not be conservative is how you change the state of things. Liberalism is a conservative viewpoint by definition in the us. It is not left wing,’ as its not revolutionary nor progressive in any way.
Liberals dont want the state of things to change in a positive way. By definition.
It’s really not, and I understood your kumbayah nonsense.
‘Liberals’ do not want to see the atrocities that the us does.
That is the difference between them and MAGA. They do not want to stop anything trump is doing. They want to be at brunch while it is happening.
That is the fundamental problem. Half of Harris voters supported Donald trumps 2016 immigration policy. As that is what harris ran on.
The other half was okay with genocide as long as it didn’t happen to them.
Still missing my point. I agree with your stance wholeheartedly. It’s a semantics problem. The point of communication is to get an idea across, and you’re hard stuck on this pictures usage of the word liberal.
I don’t know if you’re not from the US, but I am, and what I’ve described is how that word is interpreted in the US.
That is semantics friend. You’re describing semantics. We disagree on the meaning of a word, because colloquially it means one thing while it means something else in other definitions.
Also your analogy is bad. You’re describing a generalization or the formation of a stereotype.
Correcting language IS NOT how you correct ideas. You correct ideas by making people experience a difference in emotion.
Liberals dont want the state of things to change in a positive way. By definition.
Liberalism - a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.
Not sure where you’re getting your definition from. Seems like you’re just kind of making your own up.
…the left wing of the French parliment was revolutionary. That defines left wing, leftist, left leaning, etc. The right wing was conservative.
This is where we get out definitions.
Both parties in the US are liberal. Specifically neoliberal.
Therefore advocating for liberalism, is, by definition, right wing. They dont want a change, because they believe they’ve achieved it. And by their definition, they have.
Liberalism isnt progressive. It isnt radical nor revolutionary. It was in the 1700s. It hasn’t been since the 1700s.
Hey, I didn’t pick that fight. A bunch of super geniuses started shouting liberals suck in every thread and my position is they’re doing it wrong.
Count on the Internet to bring out the pedantic comments. “Liberal” is the word used to describe pretty much anything on the “Left” in the USA.
See all those downvotes from people who “disagree” with your well obvious fact? That’s bullshit. If people can learn new and interesting things from other countries, why can’t this be one of those things?
The answer I’ve gotten is ‘shut up, Americans should change the words they use’. As someone who’s said that often enough myself, I can reliably inform them that is not going to happen.
So they can either learn it or not, but it is the case. This meme being one small example.
If the same side is “liberals suck”, yeah that’s gonna be a fight. Why would people deliberately piss off the majority of progressive voters in the US? Unless they wanted fascism to win. Again.
Count on the Internet to bring out the pedantic comments. “Liberal” is the word used to describe pretty much anything on the “Left” in the USA.
Keep making your divisive posts about the “Liberals” vs the “Left” though. Trying to make sure you aren’t boxed in with any other “Left” pointing groups will definitely help bring people together to change the current state of things…
Getting people to not be conservative is how you change the state of things. Liberalism is a conservative viewpoint by definition in the us. It is not left wing,’ as its not revolutionary nor progressive in any way.
Liberals dont want the state of things to change in a positive way. By definition.
Looks like my comment went over your head. You are exactly what I’m talking about.
I understand your point, but it’s pedantic either way.
It’s really not, and I understood your kumbayah nonsense.
‘Liberals’ do not want to see the atrocities that the us does.
That is the difference between them and MAGA. They do not want to stop anything trump is doing. They want to be at brunch while it is happening.
That is the fundamental problem. Half of Harris voters supported Donald trumps 2016 immigration policy. As that is what harris ran on. The other half was okay with genocide as long as it didn’t happen to them.
Still missing my point. I agree with your stance wholeheartedly. It’s a semantics problem. The point of communication is to get an idea across, and you’re hard stuck on this pictures usage of the word liberal.
I don’t know if you’re not from the US, but I am, and what I’ve described is how that word is interpreted in the US.
It’s not semantics to be against incorrectly used, inclusive language when it includes two groups that couldnt have less to do with each other.
It’s like saying “humans sexually assault dogs.” And being mad when someone points out that humans dont generally do that, just creepy zoophiles.
Correcting language is the first step to correcting ideas, and thats the first step to fixing undeveloped countries like the us.
That is semantics friend. You’re describing semantics. We disagree on the meaning of a word, because colloquially it means one thing while it means something else in other definitions.
Also your analogy is bad. You’re describing a generalization or the formation of a stereotype.
Correcting language IS NOT how you correct ideas. You correct ideas by making people experience a difference in emotion.
You are wrong
Care to expand? Maybe read Rules For Radicals and you can tell me why I’m wrong.
Liberalism - a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.
Not sure where you’re getting your definition from. Seems like you’re just kind of making your own up.
…the left wing of the French parliment was revolutionary. That defines left wing, leftist, left leaning, etc. The right wing was conservative. This is where we get out definitions. Both parties in the US are liberal. Specifically neoliberal.
Therefore advocating for liberalism, is, by definition, right wing. They dont want a change, because they believe they’ve achieved it. And by their definition, they have.
Liberalism isnt progressive. It isnt radical nor revolutionary. It was in the 1700s. It hasn’t been since the 1700s.
Sorry bud. You said by definition. Then you proceeded to interpret your own definition using the history of multiple nations.
You can’t go around saying “by definition” when it isn’t the definition. Words matter. Maybe not to you, but they matter.
No, buddy, you read the wrong definition. I corrected that for you. Please reread and then try again.
By the definition of left wing, liberals are not left wing in the us.
Hope that is more clear and good luck on your ESL journey.
Hey, I didn’t pick that fight. A bunch of super geniuses started shouting liberals suck in every thread and my position is they’re doing it wrong.
See all those downvotes from people who “disagree” with your well obvious fact? That’s bullshit. If people can learn new and interesting things from other countries, why can’t this be one of those things?
The answer I’ve gotten is ‘shut up, Americans should change the words they use’. As someone who’s said that often enough myself, I can reliably inform them that is not going to happen.
So they can either learn it or not, but it is the case. This meme being one small example.
Agreed. People are trying so hard to be correct that they don’t want to be on the same side, they’d rather pick a flight.
If the same side is “liberals suck”, yeah that’s gonna be a fight. Why would people deliberately piss off the majority of progressive voters in the US? Unless they wanted fascism to win. Again.