Just came up with my father again.
He blames me that mother forgot her phone’s and Google password because I recommended against it being a word.
I mentioned encryption, “not necessary unless you’re doing something illegal”.
When mentioning lack of privacy with targeted advertisements, he said that he actually really likes them, because he bought a couple of things he wanted for years.
I don’t really have good arguments.
“Under current legislation”.
Do you use curtain at your place?
Q “What do you have to hide?”
A “I have nothing to share.”
They have nothing to show.
“Can I look at your browser history and show it to your mom?”
"give your neighbor your house house key and login info if security is unimportant”
Give me the man and I will give you the case against him is a saying that was popularized in the Soviet Union and in Poland in the period of the People’s Republic of Poland, attributed to the Stalinist jurist Andrey Vyshinsky,[2][5]: 200 [6] or the Soviet secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria.[3][4] It refers to the miscarriage of justice in the form of the abuse of power by the jurists, who could find any defendant guilty of “something”, if they so desired
You can find just about anyone guilty of something if you have access to everything they do/say
When mentioning lack of privacy with targeted advertisements, he said that he actually really likes them, because he bought a couple of things he wanted for years.
“It’s ok that we’re being spied, it lets people better take my money on stuff I wanted anyway”
I find this is a typical privileged response from some who is usually a white male. Or maybe even just a male.
Surprised I didn’t see this quote yet:
“Ultimately, arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” ― Edward Snowden
Nobody making these sorts of arguments is going to go through a list of over a hundred links. What an absolutely ridiculous way to try to convince anyone of anything.
I usually answer that with some version of “OK, do you mind if I put cameras all over the inside of your house and have my neighbor watch the feed?
I ask them if they have curtains.
This is what I do, along with ‘okay, unlock your phone and hand it to me’. Less often the second because if someone complied I would really not want to actually go through all their personal stuff, feels gross
Do they lock the door to the bathroom? Why? What illegal activities are they doing in there?
If you lock the door to the bathroom you must acknowledge that there are valid reasons for privacy even if you don’t do anything illegal.
If I was to answer that type of argument, I would consider those:
- why do you close the door of the bathroom when you use it?
- Can I watch you fuck?
- Show me your last income declaration
- Give me your credit card
- Why do you wear clothing?
- Why do you lock the door of the house?
but I tend to ignore people using the “I have nothing to hide” argument
I just be direct.
The people making this argument have already built an implicit stage in their mind where they’re talking about when authority is trying to investigate you for being “one of the bad ones.”
They’re not “counting” personal privacy in this context like modesty and personal private space.
I just say “Because when the long arc of history swings the other way like it has for thousands of years, do you want your scary, blue-haired antifa boogymen to have the power to investigate you and your personal life and habits?”
If it’s a male conservative, you can have great success with “So if someone says they need to check your hard drive for every image and video you’ve ever looked at, you’re fine with that? I know a guy who can immediately restore every file you’ve ever deleted.”
Sometimes they turn white.
Also: why does your wife, mom, daughter close the bathroom door? Do you watch your mom or daughter fuck?
That persons opinion of privacy would affect other people too.
ive succeeded with “unlock your phone and give it to me/let me install this trojan” a couple of times.
Yet.
Giving extensive surveillance and anti privacy powers away is a one way street.
While you might like the fuckers harming OTHERS for now, they won’t stay in charge forever and the next group could target you
