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I suppose you need a stooge to fill in until Carney wears out.
im honestly happy about this lol, no one likes this guy so its just securing a liberal victory. well, thats what i’d prefer to believe, atleast…
He almost won if not for Trump.
What will the debate look like, he can just point to Sean Fraser and Gregor Robinson, what will a progressive say to that?
Win for the rest of Canada really, it ensure the cons remain limp dicked and ineffectual.
I’ll be surprised if we get through next week without news of another Conservative floor crossing.
Of that happens, we cannot be forced into an election. Which means Carney can largely ignore PP for a couple of years.
He’s largely ignoring him and not taking the bait. Carney needs to get some more experience in question period, though. Last week Carney tried to barb back and forth at PP’s level and it was forced and went against his usual style.
PP is a pathetic loser destined for a footnote in history. Imagine needing to go Alberta, hand pick delegates, run in a riding that wants to secede from Canada. CP have no chance of governing. Everyone hates this dude outside of CP members. They are not a serious party.
Unfortunately by all accounts they do have a chance even with PP as a leader. In a late Wynne or late Trudeau scenario, the CPC could very well win a majority. Doug Ford has been riding the wave since 2018. If the LPC hadn’t pulled the Carney rabbit out of the hat, something that was far from certain to happen, we’d be saluting PM PP at the moment. We spent a lot of time and money to take Trudeau out and prevent Freeland from taking over the party. This type of maneuvre isn’t common. The chance of failure is very high.
Over the short term they wouldn’t win. By the time we get to the next election, it’s not so certain.
The next election could be this spring!!
Sure. Technically. In that case they lose the next election. 😄 Should’ve said 3-4 years’ time.
I am ok giving him a shot (to run) post Trump.
With the party shift, no one votes Con anyway.
True. The old PCs all vote Carney. The reason PP blathers on about the “youth vote” is cause the youth are all online and only know this (hyper stupid) era of “politics” . I’m speaking as a millennial.
Or they vote Con because Carney won’t fix housing, and has a new housing minister that immediately said housing prices can’t fall as its boomers retirement fund.
Liberals attempt to straddle the vote, they pretend to care about climate change for the youth vote, as they mass immigrate people into massive urban sprawl for the boomer vote. They straddle the conservative talking points about fiscal discipline as they leapfrog Trudeau level deficits.
Agree that they are doing squat about housing. Rent control needs to be all across the country for one thing. But the cons won’t do better, they will funnel money even more furiously to the private sector and achieve nothing.
Rent control is a first mover advantage, its largely immigration and nimbys. They need to continue to shrink the population, but I don’t think they will.
Lots leaving. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g6595619yo.amp
I watched a bit of his speech as I try to keep up on all the messaging from party leaders, but he’s just so boring. His only evolution in the last five years has been via the image consultant that had him ditch the glasses and go to the gym. In terms of content, he’s got nothing new to say and hasn’t for a long time.
Well, this is a bit of a risky gamble. My first thought is “good, he’ll prevent the Conservatives from making any gains given how unpopular and useless he is.”
But of course my second thought is “that’s what I thought about Trump running again…”
This one surprised me, I expected him to be out…
It’s really not surprising, it’s hand selected delegates travelling to Calgary in winter… Anything less than 80% would have been shockingly catastrophic for him.
Honestly though, holding onto leadership is good, because he’s lowered their ceiling of support so incredibly low. Yes his support base is large but he basically has no chance of getting the Conservatives a majority.
He lost a 25pt lead in the polls just because Trump won and Trudeau stepped down.
That’s it. He’s so unpopular that he was winning in polls because people were just kind of done with the leader we had, not because of Poilievre. Two things happened that had nothing to do with the Cons or him and poof there goes the election.
He’s a horrible leader, a worse human being, and he’s the best thing for Canada right now as he is single handedly keeping the Conservatives on the outside looking in.
Excuse me, for the record it’s pretty warm in Calgary right now!
Was never even in play. For one, he keeps a firm grip on power inside the CPC and they make it pretty clear that anyone who goes against him will be attacked brutally and publicly for doing so. Then, on the voter side, if you choose your voters, the voters will choose you. The way they set up the leadership vote ensured those voting would be his base.
He and Jenni Byrne captured the party and keep a tight grip on it. Even though Byrne has formally been distanced, she’s not.
I look forward to analyses. Was it a lack of clear alternatives, or is their base so far gone that they genuinely think he’s their guy?
PP won against no one. No other possible candidate for CP leadership put themself forward because it’s Carney’s Canada right now. Carney being super popular and rising. Expect some floor crossings.
MORE floor crossings
True, but I assume that if there were an obvious successor waiting in the wings, the result would have been…at least less lopsided.
The CP know Carney is very popular. He’ll get a majority soon one way or another. Let PP linger until the CP lose a fifth election in a row. Then successors will emerge. Probably Jason Kenney or Melissa Lantsman. Both awful.
In an extremely friendly and loivng manner - 🤗 please adjust your expectations 🤗. The very least so you don’t get disappointed, but also to be better connected with the reality of fellow Canadians so we can take appropriate actions before we reach the point of a large PP (or equivalent) majority. Running a non-profit social media platform certainly helps!
I’m having a similar conversation with some RL friends today.
I don’t think anything about politics can disappoint me at this point 😂 😭
Yeah. It’s how it is these days. 🫠
Nah, he’s revitalized the party, brought in a new demographic of voters, and even gained the most seats the Conservatives have ever seen. Just cause he lost to Carney doesn’t automatically make him a bad party leader.
I think they’re counting on Carney to take on Trump, make some fatal mistake, and then swoop in whatever election comes next.
Just cause he lost to Carney doesn’t automatically make him a bad party leader.
No, it’s his personality, fecklessness, inability to have a thought that doesn’t start with blaming someone else for something, smarminess and completely lacking empathy that makes him a bad leader.
100% agree, but all of those things are apparently Conservative virtues, and the party is tripling down on their pick.
I wasn’t thinking about the loss, but more so the lack of a reasonable response to Trump. He’s still stuck on basic 3 word slogans instead of having any real strategy, unless I just haven’t seen it.
Toss the ass
Dump the dick
Turf the Prick
Fire the Fool
Damn. I should have joined the PC party and started spreading these around.
New one will be Cross The Floor.
No doubt the schoolyard slogans are tiring. I also don’t think he has anything concrete to offer Canadians outside of being Trudeau’s heel.
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Feels like a big opportunity for the NDP, honestly.
Also a necessity. Carney will expire at some point and PP could win as “the only realistic option.” Kinda how Ford won in Ontario in election after election against lame ducks. I’m not comparing Ford’s political charisma to PP at all, but in a Wynne-like Liberal meltdown scenario, PP might win. Which is why it’s very important that we choose a decent leader fot the NDP and strenghten the party for the next election.
Congrats Pierre, you won an election.
He won half of the elections he ran in 2025. And the win was a landslide with him getting close to the guy he made step down. So if you add them together he’s actually doing very well
One where they hand picked the delegates
I’m guessing the vote required members to travel to Alberta in the middle of winter and vote in-person in order to count. There as no way this was going to swing any other way.
Voting was only in-person and for delegates. The CPC have over 600,000 members nationally. They had under 3,000 eligible to vote on leadership, so <0.5% of members choose the leader.
Tells you a lot about the party.
Compare that to the other party also about to select a new leader, the NDP. In their process, 100% of members get a vote on their leader, no matter where they are in the country. People just had to join before January 28, and fees I think are as low as a dollar for people who couldn’t afford it.
Night and day in terms of democratic process.
Is this true? I can’t find a source about only delegates being allowed to vote. An ex-conversative friend of mine was saying that they usually send the ballots out by mail to any member in good standing.
Edit: doing more reading I don’t think its 100% fair to compare this to NDP election. This was a leadership review not a leadership election. If PP lost this then a leadership election would happen that works basically the same as NDP leadership election in terms of who’s allowed to vote. Second the NDP has similar rules about delegates to NDP conventions as far as I can tell. You can read both their constitutions here
https://xfer.ndp.ca/2023/Documents/Constitution EN-2021.pdf
https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/30091347/c5855d471341cf9.pdf
Yeah, in 2022 they didn’t use delegates and Poilievre won with 67% from several hundred thousand votes, but this time it was back to delegates again, as they did under Harper. Harper’s last win was 84% of 2,900 delegates. The exact number hasn’t been released yet for this one I think, but estimates are 2,500 or so. Reporting is that 95% of delegates voted and 87.4% went for Poilievre. So, probably around 2,080 votes total for Poilievre.
That’s why if you look at the coverage over the last few days, you’ll read about Poilievre meeting with delegates behind the scenes in closed door meetings and trying to shore up votes. You’re not doing that with hundreds of thousands of voters, but you can with such a small number deciding your future.
We’ll probably get the exact numbers some time soon, but it’ll be in that ballpark.
The 2022 election was an actual leadership election. This was just a leadership review. People who did vote weren’t voting for a new leader. They were voting on if they still think PP should be leader. There wasn’t candidates to vote for. It was a yes or no question. If he lost this election there would be a leadership election similar to the 2022 one you reference. The 2022 election was triggered by the previous leader stepping down just like the NDP leadership election has been triggered by Jagmeet stepping down.
I do think the system is a bit strange that they have a leadership review and it’s handled by delagtes who only get picked if they are voted in at meetings in the different electoral districts. Makes it easy to stay in as leader if you can convince the right people to come.
But again what I said before stands. If the NDP did a leadership review at a convention they could do the same thing as the conversatives here cause the constitution allows for it.
Ah, okay. That makes sense. Appreciate the correction.
Not a great representative process for the NDP either in leadership reviews. The delegate system isn’t great. Having a tiny percentage of the membership and only the most dedicated shouldn’t be taken as wide support of the party membership. With modern tech it really shouldn’t be so hard to do with more direct representation.
But, I guess the voters will have their say when a real election comes and the party will deal with whatever the consequence is.
Looking back now at the last NDP leadership review, I see Jagmeet got 81%, and then lost his seat and the party’s prior gains.
Not to mention the Ontario PCs are having their party convention right now as well—meaning many members won’t attend in Calgary for the vote.
Kinda crazy if you think from a Conservatives perspective.
You get to listen to 2.5hrs of how the last 10 years in Canada has been hell on earth due to the Liberals. Delivered by the guy who somehow lost one of the easiest election ever and extended your suffering.
Then the guy tell you to bring him back and the crowd applauds.
Will say given how things went down. Pierre and his supporters seemed to stack the deck for him to win.
Certainly seems more believablet that some MP’s were waiting to jump ship if Pierre came back.
We just spoke to Sebastian Skamski, Poilievre’s former spokesperson, for some initial reaction. He’s even more definitive than Outhouse that this sort of result will quiet the naysayers and put to bed the idea of any more MPs defecting to the Liberals .
Disappointed
When all you have is shit, your voting options are limited.
