(two versions of same prompt, chatgpt and gemini versions, i forget which is which) (sometimes i do this if i think the topics especially important)
Both Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping followed similar paths of centralizing power, though the legal mechanics and historical “why” behind their transitions differ. Both leaders essentially dismantled systems that were originally designed to prevent a return to the “one-man rule” of the Soviet and Maoist eras.
1. Vladimir Putin (Russia)
In Russia, the post-Soviet 1993 Constitution limited presidents to two consecutive four-year terms.
The “How”:
- The Switch (2008): After serving two terms (2000–2008), Putin could not run again immediately. He became Prime Minister while his protégé, Dmitry Medvedev, became President. During this time, the term length was extended from 4 to 6 years.
- The Return (2012): Putin returned to the presidency for two 6-year terms.
- The “Reset” (2020): Facing a final exit in 2024, Putin backed a constitutional amendment that “zeroed out” his previous terms. This allowed him to run again in 2024 and potentially in 2030, effectively allowing him to stay in power until 2036.
The “Why”:
The Russian narrative emphasizes stability and sovereignty. Putin argues that Russia is too fragile for frequent leadership changes and that a strong, central figure is needed to resist “Western interference” and maintain internal order.
2. Xi Jinping (China)
After the chaos of Mao Zedong’s lifelong rule, Deng Xiaoping introduced a system in the 1980s that included a two-term limit for the presidency to ensure “collective leadership.”
The “How”:
- The Amendment (2018): China’s National People’s Congress voted almost unanimously to abolish the two-term limit on the presidency.
- The Alignment Theory: Xi argued that since his other two (and more powerful) titles—General Secretary of the Communist Party and Chairman of the Military Commission—had no term limits, the presidency should be changed to match them for the sake of “administrative unity.”
- Third Term (2023): Xi was officially granted an unprecedented third term, making him the leader for life in all but name.
The “Why”:
The CCP frames this as necessary for the “Great Rejuvenation of the Chinese Nation.” The logic is that China’s ambitious long-term goals (like becoming the world’s leading superpower) require a singular, uninterrupted vision that a rotating leadership might disrupt.
3. Was there a U.S. Victory?
There wasn’t a “victory” in the sense of a treaty or a battle, but rather a perceived ideological victory at the end of the Cold War (often called “The End of History”).
- The 1990s Context: After the Soviet Union collapsed, the U.S. and the West believed that liberal democracy and term limits were the “final” form of government that Russia and China would eventually fully adopt.
- The Disregard: Putin and Xi both viewed the 1990s not as a period of “liberation,” but as a period of weakness and humiliation caused by Western-style reforms.
- The Rejection: Their move toward life-terms is a direct rejection of that 1990s “victory.” They essentially decided that Western democratic models were a “trap” designed to keep their countries unstable and subservient to U.S. interests.
Summary Table
| Leader | Original Limit | Current Status | Method of Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Putin | 2 consecutive terms | Potentially until 2036 | Constitutional “reset” of term counts |
| Xi | 2 terms total | Indefinite | Total abolition of presidential term limits |
Would you like me to look into how these changes affected their respective countries’ economies or their relationships with the U.S. during those specific years?
Short version: it wasn’t a sudden flip from “U.S. wins, democracy installed” to “oops, lifetime rulers.” It was a slow, legal-looking slide where term limits existed on paper, then were bent, reset, or hollowed out once power was consolidated. And yes—there was a period where it genuinely looked like liberal democracy had won.
Let’s break it down cleanly.
The big backdrop: the 1990s “democracy moment”
After the Cold War, there was a widespread belief (especially in the U.S. and Europe) that history had a direction:
- markets + elections → liberal democracy → peaceful integration
- this idea was sometimes called “the end of history”
Russia and China both partially adopted democratic-looking rules during this period:
- constitutions
- term limits
- elections
But the institutions underneath (courts, free media, independent parties) were weak or missing.
So the term limits were real—but fragile.
Russia / Putin: how 2 terms became “forever”
1. The original rule
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1993 Russian Constitution (post-Soviet):
- President limited to 2 consecutive 4-year terms
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This was broadly modeled on Western constitutional norms.
2. Putin plays by the rules… at first
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President:
- 2000–2004
- 2004–2008 → Hits the term limit
This is the moment when many Western observers thought:
“Okay, Russia is flawed, but the rules seem to matter.”
3. The Medvedev maneuver (2008–2012)
Putin doesn’t abolish term limits. Instead:
- He becomes Prime Minister
- His ally Dmitry Medvedev becomes President
- Everyone knows Putin is still in charge
Meanwhile:
- The presidential term is quietly extended from 4 to 6 years
This is key: the rule wasn’t broken—it was re-engineered.
4. Resetting the clock (2012–2020)
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Putin returns as President in 2012
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Then in 2020, the constitution is amended again:
- Putin’s previous terms are declared not to count
Result:
- He can legally stay in power until 2036
- At that point, he’d be in his 80s
So Russia didn’t move from democracy → dictatorship overnight. It moved:
elections → managed elections → constitutional tricks → personalized rule
China / Xi Jinping: a different path, same destination
1. China did have term limits
After Mao, the Communist Party was terrified of another lifetime ruler.
So Deng Xiaoping engineered reforms:
- 2 five-year terms for top leaders
- Collective leadership
- Mandatory retirement ages
These rules worked surprisingly well—for 30+ years.
2. Xi rises inside the system
- Xi becomes General Secretary in 2012
- Initially seen as a consensus, boring, “safe” pick
Then:
- Massive anti-corruption campaign
- Which also conveniently removes rivals
3. Term limits removed (2018)
- China amends its constitution
- Presidential term limits are deleted entirely
Important detail:
- The real power in China is the Communist Party, not the presidency
- Xi had already centralized control there
So by the time the limits vanished:
the checks were already gone
Was this a “U.S. victory” that got reversed?
Sort of—but not in the way it’s often framed.
What the U.S. actually “won”
- The Cold War ended
- Communism as a global revolutionary ideology collapsed
- Russia and China integrated economically into the global system
What didn’t happen
- Strong democratic institutions never fully took root
- Rule of law stayed weaker than executive power
- Elites learned they could use democracy’s forms without its substance
So rather than:
Democracy → authoritarianism
It was more:
Weak democracy → elite capture → authoritarian consolidation
The key pattern (this matters)
Neither Putin nor Xi:
- canceled elections immediately
- declared themselves dictators
- staged classic coups
They:
- used legality
- used fear of chaos
- used nationalism
- used “stability” as the selling point
By the time term limits vanished, opposition was already neutralized.
One last important takeaway
Term limits only work if:
- courts are independent
- media is free
- opposition can organize
- elites believe they’ll be safe after leaving office
When leaders fear:
“If I step down, I’m exposed”
they don’t step down.
If you want, I can:
- compare this to Hungary, Turkey, or Venezuela
- explain why term limits survived in some countries but not others
- or dig into whether the U.S. itself is more fragile here than people assume
Just say the word.
Trapped in a two-party system of which one is center-right and the other far-right, and with the electoral college entrenching that system and favoring rural over urban voters, the U.S. isn’t a pinnacle of democracy either.
Oh ya certainly; not right now at least. The Magublicans stole the show; the Dems did nothing (not used to rebelling or needing to). Interesting comment- would you describe yourself as of normally socialist sympathies? I’m asking this 'cause your’e saying you’re nominally against both parties. are you anti-israel/pro-gaza? im asking this cause you seem to be describing the democrats as “center-right”? as in, “they’re pro war”? a gaza-war-antagonism reference? if you’re tolerant of this site, World Police, I love you and you are welcome here- I just try to practice an art of instantly sussing up information correctly- did I read you right so far, just off the subtleties of what you said? Or am I off? Please elaborate if so. Certainly, the red states won, horribly… hahaha im drunk sorry. i work like 6am-6pm on saving the world, then i chill real quick then go to bed. this is my off hour. i alsmot correct all the punctuations/garmmr ahahrharhaeharherhaehhaha
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America would be a fine place to clean up first, as a World Police Officer. Hopefully, strong reasoning alone, words, and my verbal offer for them to surrender, is enough to walk-down the entire situation, without undue actions! I know, in my heart, that the other side will hear my words, read my case, and decide to negotiate their own behavior in my favor, as they were kindly asked to do (take a survey of my site).
you get the gist… basically they were like, “yaaaa we’re doing two terms…” and they sorta started doing that… .then at the last minute they were like… “actually, all of a sudden, how bout three terms now?” … and a then a term later, they were like “actually LIFE TERMS NOW, you stupid bitches” they have shat on the peoples of the world. you know what i like about china though is their green energy program. i just dont see why anyone thinks there are “special humans”, alone, who can do the job of _____ pick any job. leadership? oh you think there are special humans who can only do that job? are there special humans who are only capable of cobbling a shoe, or hoeing a dirt? its the same thing. anyone can do a job of leadership. you dont need the same guy, “some special human”, to do it over and over again. theyre not special! since the premise is wrong… *see other comment about premises being wrong- A RATIONAL WORLD!!! (oops this comment about premises being wrong is in a different post; it was a magnificent comment though)
AND I WORRY ABOUT TRUMP’S OPEN ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME. WORRY AND PREVENT OR WORRY AND STOP. TRUMP/RUSSIA’S do you have trouble reading my writing? i always think its crystal clear but im using gaps basically that seem obvious to me. a translation: AND I WORRY ABOUT TRUMP’S OPEN ATTEMPT TO DO THE SAME. I WORRY ABOUT THIS AND AM DETERMINING MYSELF TO PREVENT IT. IF IT HAPPENS AGAINST MY WILL AND ACTIONS TO PREVENT IT, I SUPPOSE AT THAT POINT, I WILL BE BOTH WORRYING ABOUT IT, AND, TRYING TO STOP IT, AT THAT POINT. AND BECAUSE IT’S TRUMP/RUSSIA’S AMERICAN TAKEOVER; NOT JUST TRUMP’S. OH WONT YOU JOIN ME IN PREVENTING THIS. ITS ALREADY MOVING ALONG. THE LONGER IT GOES ALONG WITHOUT GETTING STOPPED, THE EASIER ITLL GET FOR THEM TO PULL OFF… BECAUSE THEYRE CONSOLIDATING MORE POWER BEHIND THE SCENES… OOOOOOHHH WONT YA JOIN ME IN TRYING TO STOP IT. DONT LET IT HAPPEN

