• Europellinore@europe.pub
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    7 months ago

    USA’s demand that Europe has to take care of its own defence, was never about Europe having to take care of its own defence.

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      7 months ago

      Oh, absolutely. That 5% spending for NATO was intended to all go into US weapon industry.

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      7 months ago

      Wake me when American defense companies start actually suffering

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        7 months ago

        Is the goal to increase independence for Europe or suffering of US companies? Wouldn’t the success of European defense companies be a better metric here?

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    7 months ago

    They are starting to see how heavily the EU have subsidized their arms industry, lol.

    • Rene Raggl 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 🇬🇱@mastodon.nl
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      7 months ago

      @stoy While their mandate ‘Buy American’ goes back to 1950 with the Defense Procurement Act. For European companies to qualify they demand production be at least 50% based in the US and often a full transfer of IP.

      Now they cry foul as we aim to do the same tells a lot about just how skewed that relationship is and basically has been for decades. Freeloaders my ass! Don’t budge @EUCommission ! #us #uspol #europe #defense #buyeuropean #unplugtrump

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        7 months ago

        At first I was confused as to why you highlighted me in a normal reply, then I remembered the that you might be posting through mastodon, and indeed you are.

        Just awesome to have all services in the feddiverse intermingle natively!


        Yeah, they have for decades screamed about the EU getting a free ride in NATO, while we have quietly been helping them massively with arms R&D and scaling production.

        There is a YT channel mainly hosted by a former officer from the Finnish defense forces who explains how many orders the US have lost with all of Trumps shenanigans, it is called MilitaryRated, and what I really like about it is that they doesn’t just stop at numbers, they quantify that into jobs lost over years/decades.

        Here is a video doing just that:

        https://youtu.be/q55K_gLdLTk

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    7 months ago

    Pwease buy our stuff.

    Maybe the MIC should have thought about this before Trump ruined literally everything. They had a good thing going, selling to literally every country on earth barring a few.