• linule
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    But on public discussions, also remember that there can be undecided people watching / reading too.

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      Real “Thank You For Smoking” moment.

      Nick Naylor: OK, let’s say that you’re defending chocolate, and I’m defending vanilla. Now if I were to say to you: ‘Vanilla is the best flavor ice-cream’, you’d say…

      Joey Naylor: No, chocolate is.

      Nick Naylor: Exactly, but you can’t win with this argument… so, I’ll ask you: so you think chocolate is the end all and the all of ice cream, do you?

      Joey Naylor: It’s the best ice cream, I wouldn’t order any other.

      Nick Naylor: Oh! So it’s all chocolate for you is it?

      Joey Naylor: Yes, chocolate is all I need.

      Nick Naylor: Well, I need more than chocolate, and for that matter I need more than vanilla. I believe that we need freedom. And choice when it comes to our ice cream, and that Joey Naylor, that is the definition of liberty.

      Joey Naylor: But that’s not what we’re talking about

      Nick Naylor: Ah! But that’s what I’m talking about.

      Joey Naylor: …but you didn’t prove that vanilla was the best…

      Nick Naylor: I didn’t have to. I proved that you’re wrong, and if you’re wrong I’m right.

      Joey Naylor: But you still didn’t convince me

      Nick Naylor: It’s that… I’m not after you. I’m after them (all people around) >

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    That’s basically the internet since I know it: explaining even the most obvious things to people who is actively refusing to understand them.

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    “You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into”

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      Only works if you have a community on your side. Just coming in swinging can easily make you look like an asshole.