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  • @[email protected]
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    1391 year ago

    Everyone is interpeting the comic wrong, shitty title most likely.

    Lions = billionaires

    Gazelle = workers

    Why do the workers need education? To be taught to accept their place in the food chain. It’s about propaganda, not taxes.

    • @[email protected]
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      261 year ago

      I like your interpretation but the title is literally the title the artist gave it. I’m not sure who is right, the artist or the observer.

        • @Railing5132
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          131 year ago

          Exactly right - its in the first panel; “giving back”. It’s addressing the scraps that whales (large donor’s, sought by non-profit organizations) throw to NPO’s to “give back” to their community, which they also claim on their taxes as a donation.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        The artist posted it? Well lemmy play my “art is interpreted by the viewer” card then.

        Otherwise, 🤷‍♂️

        • @[email protected]
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          51 year ago

          The OP is not the artist, but they linked the source site for the comic which uses the same title.

        • @AEsheron
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          11 year ago

          I think it’s just another reference to how the rich stay rich, not exactly tied to the content of the comic but the theme.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      1 year ago

      This, they only tell you “Oh Gates dropped out and he became the richest man!”

      In order to instill you with the idea that the rich are great men who can do the impossible and get good results…

      They keep quiet that he dropped out of Harvard and his Mother gave him a contract because she owned IBM.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin
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      21 year ago

      Not even fair there tho, in nature predators maintain a stable environment by regulating prey populations to sustainable sizes.

      An equivalent under capitalism would be stronger anti-monopoly law and laws imposing heavy regulation on businesses above a given size within their respective markets.

      A big hunter that keeps grazers at a size that doesn’t allow them to begin just eating everything and starving everyone else out while depleting the resource well for all.

  • 🐱TheCat
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    701 year ago

    ah yes, refuse to fund the schools with taxes and let the religious institutions do it. This is why Americans are generally thought of as ‘well-educated’ on the world stage.

    …/s

      • 🐱TheCat
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        181 year ago

        its funny how it works both ways. I could easily see this comic on an right-wing facebook page in the USA in favor of ‘school vouchers’

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          That it happens is indisputable.

          Some people just think the message “don’t genocide your neighbors” is the problem instead of “the system works and isn’t designed to take advantage of you.”

      • @mind
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        11 year ago

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        • Primarily0617
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          11 year ago

          no, but it’s a lot closer to being run by the workers than a company is, given that normally the workers don’t vote to elect the CEO and the board of directors

    • @Feirdro
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      211 year ago

      Americans are nowhere near the top anymore, on any recent metric I’ve heard.

      • @Arbiter
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        311 year ago

        That’s because you have to use imperial to measure American success ;)

        • @wahming
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          51 year ago

          That’s just asking for the ‘American imperialists’ crowd to show up

      • @Noodle07
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        101 year ago

        They’re not first in school shootings?

        • @Feirdro
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          51 year ago

          “We have the most perfect school shootings.”

          —Trump, probably

  • @solstice
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    601 year ago

    I’m sure this is going to be a level headed rational discussion about taxes by all the knowledgeable skilled tax professionals in lemmy.

    • @satanmat
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      611 year ago

      I glossed over the tax implications and went straight to the indoctrination of the masses into the ideals of capitalism

    • @gmtom
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      231 year ago

      I mean on one hand I agree with you. But on the other I don’t think you need to be a “tax professional” to have a valid opinion on taxes.

      Like I’m sure you express opinions you are not a leafing expert on right?

      • @solstice
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        Actually I try to go out of my way to not have opinions on complicated technical subjects I know nothing about. Tend to defer to whatever the experts’ consensus is. It’s shocking to me how few people do that.

        Edit - lol at the downvotes, thanks for proving my point.

        • Primarily0617
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          131 year ago

          so you don’t vote presumably? since every issue you could decide your vote on is obviously highly technical once you drill down into it

          • @solstice
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            -11 year ago

            Tend to defer to whatever the experts’ consensus is.

            • Primarily0617
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              And both sides have their own experts on every single topic. What’s your point?

              • @solstice
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                31 year ago

                There’s consensus on climate change which I’m not an expert in so I defer to the opinion of the global scientific community. And there’s consensus among doctors and scientists worldwide on vaccines masks etc. That instantly makes it a lot easier to determine which individual or party to vote for.

                Tax is really complicated and technical and most people (including the ~90% of accountants who don’t work in tax) don’t understand it at all. It would be cool if people would be more quiet about their opinions on it since they don’t understand the first thing about it.

                Sidebar: imagine arguing with a doctor about medicine, a biologist about evolution, a lawyer about law. Never ceases to amaze me how many people have the hubris and audacity to argue with an SME about a technical subject in their own field 🙄

                • Primarily0617
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                  There are experts on both sides of climate change. And the ones on the “it’s a hoax” side would obviously beat you in a debate about it. Those ones are likely bought and paid for, but seeing as how you have literally no way of confirming that, by deferring to one side over the other you’re making a personal evaluation of the information presented to you as a non-expert. You know, like ordinary people do when they have opinions on things.

                  You don’t need to understand the entire US tax code to have an opinion on tax incentives. Much like you don’t have to be an airline pilot to know that a plane crashing isn’t a good thing.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 year ago

          I HaVe oPiNioNs on tHAt!..

          But seriously, I think while admirable, this would be the death of traditional leadership, where there’s a heavy reliance on abstraction of deep concepts to make informed decisions for larger entities (government, corporations, non profits, etc.). Make of that what you will.

          • @solstice
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            11 year ago

            Isn’t true great leader ship surrounding yourself with experts and utilizing their expertise?

    • Primarily0617
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      151 year ago

      I’m surprised you think it’s the tax deductions that are the issue here.

      • @solstice
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        -51 year ago

        I don’t think they’re an issue at all.

        • Primarily0617
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          41 year ago

          You don’t think corporations having a hand in what children/teenagers/adults learn because of lobbying and donations is a bad thing?

          • @IMongoose
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            41 year ago

            Nope, I’m a proud grad of Joint Carls Jr and Pizza Hut high and corporations should write the regulations because they know all the ins and outs burgers.

            • @[email protected]
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              01 year ago

              You joke, but Carnegie built thousands of libraries across the country in the early 1900s, many of which are still in use today. Over 100 years later, the government never bothered building their own library.

              Let that sink in.

          • @solstice
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            Political contributions are textbook examples of nondeductible expenses. Charity contributions are deductible for all taxpayers to an extent. Private schools can be for-profit businesses and have been for quite some time and sometimes they teach controversial subjects. Not sure what relevance that is though. Seems like you should be angry about education policy, not tax policy.

            That thing we’ve been talking about, you’re doing it here.

            • Primarily0617
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              Do you not understand that giving charitable donations in order to sway public opinion to your side is lobbying?

              So again: you don’t have any problem with corporate influence over what children learn in schools?

              • @solstice
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                11 year ago

                Generally speaking I don’t find charity contributions a controversial subject, no. I do have a problem with you putting words in my mouth. You’re clearly pissed off about a bunch of things and there’s plenty to be pissed off about. But your ire is misdirected here, as badly as this comic is mistitled.

                Seems like you’re just lashing out because you’ve read a bunch of malarkey saying rich people don’t pay taxes and now you’ve formed a political ideology around that misunderstanding.

                • Primarily0617
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                  11 year ago

                  Words in your mouth? Oh dear.

                  🎵 Sounds like somebody doesn’t understand the logical consequences of the positions they hold 🎵

                  • We’ve established that tax cuts incentivize a behavior.
                  • We’ve established that corporate charitable donations can be and are used for lobbying.
                  • Lobbying can be and is used in the educational space.
                  • You don’t see any issue with tax deductions in this exact circumstance
                  • Therefore, you don’t see any issue with incentivizing lobbying in the educational space.

                  Seems like you’re just lashing out because you’ve read a bunch of malarkey saying rich people don’t pay taxes and now you’ve formed a political ideology around that misunderstanding.

                  Of all the Redditors who’ve tried to armchair psycho-analyze me, I think your attempt actually might be the worst.

    • @DumbDumbMcAssHat
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      31 year ago

      One of the first things to do with complex and nuanced topics is to express them in comics.

  • @ImpossibilityBox
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    231 year ago

    Be warned to anyone who might go check this out.

    This is a #VERY NSFW comic.

  • Flying Squid
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    41 year ago

    What is this Libertarian bullshit doing here?

    • Primarily0617
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      371 year ago

      “corporations shouldn’t be allowed to have influence over what content is taught in schools” is “libertarian bullshit”?

        • Primarily0617
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          171 year ago

          No but they “donate to their local community” to get tax deductions / write offs

          • @[email protected]
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            41 year ago

            Let me ask you something: Do you think that when corps donate, they get MORE in tax savings than they put in for donations?

            • @[email protected]
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              171 year ago

              For the most part people don’t understand tax deductions and how they work, but this is true in the case of “donations in kind” of assets that are either overvalued or were going to be disposed of anyways.

              The ideal charitable donation disposes of something you were going to have to pay to get rid of, generates a tax deduction, and makes you look good at the same time.

              Perfect example is bogus environmental projects like building a reef out of old tires. It’s win/win/win until everyone finds out that something in the tires actually kills fish

              • @[email protected]
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                51 year ago

                Yeah they send old medicines to Africa too, some poor hospital on Kenya gets 100,000 expired doses of a medicine they don’t even need if they could use it and then they have to pay to dispose of it while the company saves that fee and gets a tax write off

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              no obviously not that’s not how tax deductions work

              similarly to how i’m against corporations being able to donate to politicians, i’d be against corporations being able to donate in such a way that they could influence the school syllabus even if it literally cost them more than the recipient got

    • @mind
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