- cross-posted to:
- davinciresolve
- cross-posted to:
- davinciresolve
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/469632
Looking to upgrade my Synology DS218+ to a 4 or 5 bay NAS because I am running out of storage. These past few days, I saw everybody and their mother say you cannot edit on anything else than a 10gig ethernet.
At the moment I am editing stuff from my workstation(AMD 5800x, 3060TI, 64GB, 1TB NVME) and I was curios how much worse would the experience be if I tried to edit from the NAS via my 1gig ethernet.
Most of my work is shot in 4k 150MBps and some even in 1080p.
So I copied around 5gigs of footage to my main NVME and the same footage on my NAS. First I added the NVME footage in a 4k timeline, chopped it up a little, threw 5 random LUTs, threw a noise reduction node and a camera shake effect. Playback in the edit page was ok, my GPU was gasping for air but playback was smooth. I rendered it at 16MBps and it came out in 5:22minutes.
Next, I deleted that footage, emptied cache and added the same clips from the NAS with the same cuts, LUTS and noise reduction. Playback was also super smooth and it rendered in 5:23minutes, so 1 second slower. That must be why everyone says you need 10GbE.
During all this time I had the Synology resource monitor on and it jumped at 30MBps at most.
So no real difference between the two. Next I took around 50gigs of footage and threw it on the same timeline, stacked it 4-5 times and indeed it was slow but it was because Davinci was caching stuff, when it finished the playback was super smooth.
All the time, proxies were disabled so the PC had to do all the work, if I add proxies it’s a breeze.
I think that’s where the difference comes in, Davinci is caching the clips and it doesn’t really constantly read the original files.
I’m not saying you don’t need more than 1gig, especially if you have more people working at the same time. If you work with RAW footage or footage that’s 400MBps and up but the videos and posts I saw made it seem like even if you edit phone videos, 10GbE is a must…
Not a scientific test but I was super surprised to see that it made no difference if I was editing locally or from my NAS.
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Probably because they have an affiliate link in their description, so they benefit financially.
I don’t know why you’d take network architecture advice from youtube “influencers”.
$$ makes the world go round.
^ this right here…
YouTuber’s = most of them are shilling something and/or have a vested interested in the tech/products being displayed.
That’s a good point, was mostly researching for which NAS to get and it’s not only youtubers but also reddit/websites, make the same claim. It’s true it would be a lot faster but not mandatory. I guess you are right, it’s most likely affiliate link money.
Not a YouTuber but my NAS at home is 10g, so is my computer.
Mostly used when I was to locally modify files before copying it over to my nas which gets replicated.
I’ve recently seen peak speeds of 7Gbps from NAS to PC, and multi gig as well when replicating.
Not necessary but it is a time saver for sure.
For copying is great but contrary to most people online, it’s not a must. When upgrading my NAS, I will also most likely go 10G, will see.
The takeaway I get from a lot of youtube videos around homelab/server content is they haven’t actually tested it themselves, and just recommend high end hardware because it’s cool.
That’s my impression as well, for most things. They go straight for the biggest, most expensive thing.
Sounds like 1 GbE works fine for you. What if you had another user editing from your NAS at the same time? What about mixing down to 4k from 8k source?
These are all super valid questions but at the moment are not relevant for me. The NAS is at home so I will be alone, I will also work from a laptop if I change the NAS but 1 PC at a time. 8k maybe in 3-4 years if even.
Just pointing out the answer to your question, “Why does every YouTuber recommend 10GbE when 1GbE works for me?” 😄
Different circumstances can push for different solutions.
Best bet would be its fast to store and edit across the network, but it isn’t really a requirement. You could simply store the media on your local PC, edit it there, then before going to bed start a copy over to the NAS and have it complete by morning. Obviously 10Gb/e would be faster, but i don’t see it as a requirement.
That’s what I am doing at the moment, working on the NVMe and when the project is done, it’s being copied to another internal 10TB HDD and from there it goes to the NAS, Backblaze and another external HDD. It’s a rather convoluted process where the NAS is mostly used for back-up. I want the next NAS to be the central piece and work from it. I created a diagram of how I’m working now and I want to streamline the process in the future.
It’s not about sustained bandwidth, it’s about peak. Sure, you can smoothly playback whatever footage over 1gbit. But real time editing it can require more burst bandwidth. Moving up and down in the timeline of the video? How about doing that while splicing 5 different videos together? Maybe you are fine with waiting 0.1secs but professionals are more picky and their time more valuable.
In a professional environment, a couple thousands of dollars is nothing.
I’ve added 50gigs worth of footage and stacked it 4-5 times, after Davinci cached everything it was smooth playback. The highest peak was 30MB, nowhere near the 1gig limit.
Don’t know if what I said came over as amateurish but I as pro as the rest of them and I am not doing this as a hobby…
Alot of times YouTubers actually have an entire editing team behind them, no? If 10 people are working on a video, that’s 10x30MB peak, or 300MB/s. That’s well over 1Gbps.
Maybe different workflows have different needs. I am not familiar with the subject, just offered a potential explanation.
Hey guys, I cross-posted it from Davinci community since here there are a bunch more people and I am curios on other people’s opinions. Also I wanted to test the cross-post feature :)
Looks like I’m missing something. On Jerboa I see only one davinci resolve community and it says 1 user / month.
In the browser it shows 11 subscribers. It’s pretty new, I created it 2 days ago.
Because they are editing 4K if your listening to some of the big youtubers.
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