• Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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      It’s that em-dash at the end that really solidified it for me. Was kinda on the fence most of the way through.

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        My wife is a professional writer and uses em dash a lot, usually as --, including in her casual messages, as it’s common for her to use.

        It’s the formatting style of the whole thing that sounds AI to me. “Honestly” phrases really jumps out at me now, as well as the “But…” fragments. Not that they’re bad, hell, I type out things that way too. But for it to be all together, it sounds AI after you’ve seen it a lot.

        The em dash is fine here, emphasizing the final point. Although I would have probably used a comma myself for a post and not a formal manuscript.

        Funny thing is, you can get AI to reduce a lot of these tells with a decent system prompt and staging of the writing process. So I’m surprised we’re still seeing it a lot and it hasn’t been weaned out of the latest versions.

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          Fair enough on the em-dash, hadn’t actually considered that LLMs use it extensively because it’s actually used in the wild.

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          It’s really hard to get rid of things caused by systematic bias in the training data.

          After inhaling the entire internet, LLMs started being trained on publically available books.
          And due to copyright, those were older ones from a time when em-dashes were used more.
          The training results were tested by humans, which needed to be cheap, but also English language natives.
          So they used workers in English-speaking African countries. Where the English taught in school is also more traditional with a focus on older literature, so the answers coming from the old literature were rated higher by the testers.

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          The use of “–” is interesting, I use dashes to convey pacing constantly because I type as I speak, and so punctuation to me is largely about trying to write the delivery I want the reader to percieve, and I always just use “-” knowing it’s incorrect, but I don’t exactly wanna make myself seem even more like ai by switching lol

          I may try using “–”, thanks for sharing that!

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      that batman image,, uhh,,, recite it from memory,,, batman says "this is the tool of the enemy, we shall not use it" or something,,, idk,,,
      (...why?? does lemmy collapse the commas into one??? eww
      and uses the unicode ellipsis??? ugh
      tip: be generous with backslashes! if it is not what you typed, then do not sit there and take it! defend yourself with the slashes!! <slash>! <slash>!!)

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        Lemmy uses markdown, you can choose to learn it instead of getting frustrated about it lol. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Also, why are you putting question marks in the middle of the sentence? Reads horrible.

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          xml is better than markdown, you will not change my mind, but i would like to see you try
          when they were writing the code to convert markdown to xml, because no, sane or insane, web browser supports markdown, did, at no point, did they think "gosh, there's got to be a better way"???

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          so was i just hallucinating that lemmy somewhere censored swears??? or can someone back me up on this

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    There is something to it, but ya can’t just mash two half truths together to make a full truth.

    A clear vision of what I can expect and what I am going to be doing where I work, makes a big difference. It can outweigh some other concerns if I see that I can avoid, compensate for, or be allowed to fix them.

    But if the salary is too low, I am not fucking joking: I am bringing skills and they have value. If anything, a talk about how I fit the role should make that clearer to you, the employer.

    I guess if the “role talk” convinced me that it is a bullshit job that I am actually supposed to half-ass and coast, leaving me room to take on side jobs and do job hunting during paid hours: Sure. Let’s sign.

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    Honestly, don’t really see a problem with a negotiation ending up like that, it might clear up the workload or getting specific vacation other accommodations through, making the compensation worth it.

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      I mean, if we negotiate WFH that’s some benefit worth money. Workload shouldnt matter if its full time i drop the pen after 40h. I think a person accepting a lowball offer will go on looking and you onboard for nothing.

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    They always do that song and dance anyways, it’s not like they wait til the last minute. Got that from my former job, and I just patiently waited til it clicked and they skipped : “they have a very thorough test system, and the work ambience is really good, and … Oh yes you have already worked there.” Yes I worked on their shitty tests and left because the ambiance was bad (one reason in many, this offering is fir another team, where the ambience is only morose).

    But it’s AI slop, probably with a prompt “the salary is not negotiable” in it so …

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    In principle this is kind of how negotiations work.

    Although, obviously it didn’t needed to be phrased like this and posted to linked in.