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    I mean, the borg kind of started the whole series when they killed Sisko’s wife.

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        3 days ago

        He wanted to mess with the Borg. He designed a ship to mess with the Borg. They didn’t show up in his part of the woods so he demonstrated what happens when someone has a ship designed to mess with the Borg.

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      I remember seeing that air. What a opening. Seeing how bad Wolf 359 really was from the inside. Also, I think first time we see starships turn on a dime.

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        Yeah that was neat, the Miranda definitely got some upgrades in the 24th century over the maneuvers they it pulled in WoK.

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          To be fair, in WoK they mainly just bumbled around blind in a nebula. It wasn’t exactly a dogfight!

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            To be fair the writers of WoK intended it to feel like Das Boot than a dog fight.

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    I was done with the Borg when they introduced a Queen.

    Just like Zerg and Tyranids. I understand that narratively you need characters for stories, but coupling those completely alien swarm intelligences to discreet “Queens” commanding the swarm takes away this very alienness and transforms them from a terrifying force of nature you can never truly understand into yet another rulers personal army.

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      I try to take those characters as manifestations of the collective rather than a true individual.

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        Dark gods!.. 96… 96… I’ve seen first contact on the big screen when it came out… I’m old as fuck.

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    Didn’t we see Sisko’s encounter with the Borg in the very first episode? Sure, they never visited the station, but lots of other aliens never visited the station that we still consider to have been part of DS9, like The Founders

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    DS9 was amazing. Certainly better than Enterprise (which is disappointing because the latter had such a good premise)

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      it shouldve went with romulan war buildup, instead of the xindi arc. they are always teasing ROMULAN in the series. s5-7 were suppose to have shran join the crew, but the NETWORK CANCELLED THE SHOW.

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        Honestly they could just bring Enterprise back it would be an improvement over constantly producing subpar Star Trek shows that no one really wants.

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        I think Enterprise immediately being like “TIME TRAVEL COLD WAR” was one of the biggest narrative problems with Enterprise. It didn’t let Enterprise stand on it’s own, but was constantly shadowed by future events. IMO they should have spent more time writing ahead of the show to figure out what the overarching storylines should be rather than just figuring it out as they went.

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        Still not as heartbreaking as the Firefly cancellation. I don’t know if I’ll ever get over that one.

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        Nah, Baseball is the true sport of the prophets that Sisko brought to Earth by timetravelling in order to save humanity from a rogue Klingon faction that encountered earth before the Vulcans made contact. Inside the baseballs were genetic modifiers that would turn the Klingons into looking like humans and it embarassed them so bad they fled.

        A timeloop is formed, which is why Sisko keeps the baseball in his office to remind him of it.

        The Borg fear Baseball because they recognize it represents power over reality itself.

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    Which episode did Archer and crew encounter the Borg?

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      s2e23 “Regeneration”

      They encounter a few drones left in a crash site from First Contact.

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        Wait… really? How have I totally forgotten about this???

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          It’s not bad actually. Puts some of the fear back into the Borg as boogeymen.

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          it also sorta"retcons" ties into how the borg found earth in the first place in the future(explained at the end of the episode.

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          ___the borg sent a signal in 2256 towards delta quadrant after PHLOX was partially assimilated he heard the signal in his mind, and the computer analyzed the coordinates deep in the delta quadrant. T’pol said it would take 200 years to reach borg space if at all, and archer said they only delayed the war until 24th century(right around the time tng discovered attacks on the neutral zone in the first season , since the borg came to investigate around that time )

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            Well, that’s cool!

            I guess my memories of ENT are fuzzy because I only watched it once.

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    DS9 was too far away from where borg would attack, and first contact was happening around the same time of ds9, when they had to move defiant off-screen to fight the borg.

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    One of these things is not like the others.

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      …the defiant was stupid and undermined the entire narrative premise of deep space nine…

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        ds9 like other trek series needed thier “own ship of the series” im guessing thats why they had defiant instead of the station. also they stopped exploring when the dominion invaded, never went back to exploring space after that.