The final release of the GNOME 45 desktop environment is expected on September 20th, 2023.
Not long to go now. :)
I always look forward to new Gnome releases, and I still switch back and forth between Plasma and Gnome all the time…
KDE: we have compositor crash recovery in testing
Gnome: we broke the extension interface, again
XFCE: we added some format options for the clock
Xfce went gtk3 yet?
Apparently so, but I’m happy to say it’s never given me a reason to care.
i used to maintain some packages and stuff - that is the only reason it matters
There isn’t an extension interface beyond load/unload. It is arbitrary JavaScript injected into the shells process. No stable api existed.
You can dislike that but it’s also why extensions can do literally anything and are very powerful.
not just that, the Just Perfection dev argued that they (extension devs) much rather have that instead of an API because the API wouldn’t be as flexible/free
I was always a GNOME guy. Not sure why really, maybe it was the state of KDE3 vs GNOME2. Never really looked at KDE again and assumed there is a reason all the popular distros pick GNOME. then 3 years ago I tried KED, and was blown away. Now I’ve completely flipped my position on it.
Well kde4 was also a trash fire
And it look until like 5.14/5.15/5.16 for Plasma 5 to finally be stable enough IMO.
The memes of Plasma being unstable and buggy were very real.
Comparing the first Plasma 5 release to 5.27 would be night and day, it went from being straight up unusable trash to a competent, powerful, mostly stable experience. Such a massive improvement.
I’m glad they’ve postponed Plasma 6 again so they can get things right. Plasma being buggy for so long is what caused Gnome to supplant them in the first place, they’re right to try to shake that image.
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i jumped ship around i wanna say 5.8? i was tired of gnome at that time.
KDE: we have compositor crash recovery in testing
I’ve been using GNOME on Wayland for over 5 years and I can’t recall it ever crashing. Hangs and freezes, yes, but not a full crash. I guess the fact that users feel the need to track “crash recovery” as a feature is indicative of KDE’s stability.
I’ve been on Gnome for few a months now, and have already had plenty episodes of it freezing, or crashing, or not coming back out of sleep, or dropping to the login screen with all my programs gone.
Weird. Nvidia? I’ve never had a crash either
or not coming back out of sleep
That’s highly likely a hardware issue. And if you have a hardware issue then I wonder about your crashes.
That’s really odd. I have been using it for like 3 years so far and I haven’t had many problems like those, and when I did they were intel/amd gpu driver bugs/crashes or kdenlive as I mentioned before.
KDE is nowhere near as bad as it used to be for bugs and instability.
Don’t get me wrong, IMO Gnome is still substantially more stable and bug-free, but you’d be surprised how much more stable Plasma has become over the past year.
And unlike with Plasma 4 and early Plasma 5, for Plasma 6 KDE actually seems to want to have it be a fairly stable system on release. They’re moving in the right direction.
For me Gnome on Wayland crashes when KDEnlive crashes and takes down the whole desktop.
The other day I was on KDE on steam deck desktop mode and could not wake from sleep, not sure if it’s a KDE thing or steam os thing though.
Could be either. KDE has never been as mature as GNOME, and I say this as a KDE fna <3
If you need to use extensions that completely break your user experience each GNOME iteration, just don’t bother using it.
But vanilla GNOME completely breaks my user experience each boot…
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Nice, they added the new activities button!
