Recently finished this one. This is a pop philosophy book on why, epistimologically, it makes sense to just use expert opinion (without checking their reasoning or reasons carefully yourself) generally. It was written just before widespread AI use, with more of a focus on vaccine denial and conspiracy theory. But I think it has a lot to do with AI use, especially in schools and conversation. Many students are turning to an AI to complete homework and study, with mixed (and often disastrous) results.

Importantly, the book only makes the moral case in a weak sense. The main good is ‘justified, true beliefs held’ with a minimum of error, time, and effort. It does argue that we have to use expert testimony for most of our beliefs (wikipedia) anyway; and that the best way to manage expert incentives and opinion is institutional (and not trying to become an expert in everything yourself).

Overall, I found it troubling to read. The rationalization is pretty compelling, and there are few glaringly obvious leaps or gaps. Worse, the rationalizations aren’t hard.

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    24 hours ago

    Disclaimer: did not read this book like OP did, I just read their summary/reaction)

    The biggest problem with these ideas is that people now classify “AI” (next word generators) as “credible”. My boss is in full-blown AI psychosis. Trusts incorrect answers from GPT/Gemini over my 15 years experience doing my job. Can’t WAIT until GPT tells him to fire me. That’s going to be a great day.

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      21 hours ago

      I literally just had an AI discussion at work this morning with my boss that is suuuper pro AI and I cannot seem to get through to him that it is a fancy next word predictor, and does not actually know what it is saying.

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      18 hours ago

      I’m mostly in the case of calculus/pre-algebra homework, where objectively the recent models are more accurate than my typical student. They will miss a trick question sometimes, or make a calculation error. But not as much as a struggling student?

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        17 hours ago

        I bet they’re still trash vs Wolfram alpha.

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          17 hours ago

          Used to keep students away from Wolfram with story problems + extra parameters. Sadly, several LLMs have tool-calls to, for example, sage-math. Pretty sure some of them have wolfram integration.

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      17 hours ago

      You probably believe a lot of things on expert testimony. For example, the experiments to get the formula for gravitation correct are extremely nuanced and weird (massive balls in pools of water at weird angles/times, for eg). Another example is the mess we’ve went through to get good weather prediction, which many folks take at their word from an app each day.

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    I can see this a bit except for the “without checking their reasoning or reasons carefully yourself”. Certainly no one should reinvent the wheel and one should be aware of how limited thier knowledge is in a field but things need to be logical to oneself in their actions. I recognize that when I lack the necessary knowldge then expert advice is the way to go but generally there are multiple experts and if they disagree you have to choose which expert to go with. This goes into credentials and societys and such around the field since nowadays many things have so called experts. Further when you have an expert you believe is valid and get their opinion and it does not make logical sense to you it makes sense to ask them about how it appears wierd to you and for them to help explain it to a leve where you can see the logic. There is an efficiency cost to all of this. The richer one gets and the more money ones time is worth the more one needs to offload things to the best experts you can. I really don’t have much of that problem though.

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      17 hours ago

      Summarizing from the book:

      Experts have seen more evidence than you.

      Experts have better techniques for evaluating the evidence than you can be easily taught (if you are an expert in something, think about all the little edge cases that the news always gets wrong).

      The above are often not easily shared. It takes years to understand why we run medical trials the way we do.

      If experts credibly disagree: You should suspend judgement! If experts can’t get through it, you are very unlikely to get through it yourself. Even more so if the correct conclusion has consequences; there are certainly motivated actors trying to prey upon exactly you(r demographic).

      (The book agrees with you that it’s probably for everyone’s best interests to have folks checking and having a dialog with the experts to get some understanding. It’s just not an imperative for getting correct conclusions.)

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        14 hours ago

        I guess im thinking in terms of going to an expert. Like a doctor. I expect the doctor use his better understanding from years of training to explain why his recommendation is the best course. To me the expert should be expected to be able to explain it at least well enough to convince me. If an expert wants to say I just know best Im not sure I can take them seriously as an expert.

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    1 day ago

    I’m doing research in this vein right now specifically for business cases, I’ll definitely give this a read. Tangentially, if you also read this kind of material with any regularity, what do you read in between for a breather/palette cleanser? The either bleak or else totally unrealistically utopian outlooks of the nonfiction I’m reading is starting to take a toll.

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      17 hours ago

      Personally, I mix in friend recommendations (mostly in fiction). Recently finished the Mysterious Benedict’s Society, which was delightful.