They filmed the screaming. Now they're being silenced.
    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
      4·
      2 days ago

      I think it’s a good example of what happens when you give power to a center-right liberal establishment. Angela Merkel appears to have been the guiding hand keeping the tiller from pulling too far right. Now that she’s out of the picture, the establishment is having a hard time managing its image. Merkel was great at engaging in rabid corporatism while presenting Germany as a voice of reason and ethical governing in Europe.

      Without a strong leader to whip the gears of government in the same direction, the inherent bureaucracy in the German system is going to lead to gridlock that makes the whole government seem inept. Which of course leaves the far right space to breed among the contempt of the people. It’s beginning to feel a lot like we are beginning to collect the same spectre of problems that led to the fall of the Weimar Republic.

  • P00ptart
    16·
    3 days ago

    Germany is fucking up all over the place now.

  • terwn43lp
    41·
    2 days ago

    there’s no humane way to eat animals, every country is part of the problem

    • Therefore
      20·
      2 days ago

      Co2 can be effective as a mild anesthetic at certain percentage, causing relaxation and drowsiness. So can be used to euthanize animals humanely and without toxicity. If the levels rise above that threshold, you experience a burning throat and a feeling of suffocation. Which is not humane. I imagine it’s what the videos show.

      • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        2 days ago

        Here is a paper on the topic, if you’re interested.

        CO2 is an aversive stimulant to pigs, which is why they respond in these ways. CO2 irritates the mucosal lining of the trachea and nostrils, and when combined with natural bodily moisture, carbonic acid can also form on the eyes. CO2 causes acidosis (acidifying blood and tissues) and hypercapnia (excessive levels of CO2 in the blood), which creates a sense of breathlessness, hyperventilation, and “air hunger”.This is a significant animal welfare concern. Ultimately, unconsciousness is initiated by the cerebrospinal fluid of the brain becoming too acidic and the brain ceasing to function. It takes an average of 3–5 min for pigs to die within these CO2 pits.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
        3·
        2 days ago

        I wonder why they wouldn’t use a different inert gas like nitrogen? It would be a much more humane way to euthanize any mammal, and it’s cheaper to produce on site.

        Maybe these aren’t really gas “chambers” and are just open pits, and using c02 because it’s heavier than air?

        • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          2 days ago

          using c02 because it’s heavier than air?

          That’s the key reason. It’s cheaper to run an abattoir like that because of the throughput. Using gondolas you “dip” the batch of pigs in the gas simultaneously, all in the same cage, and rotate it to the unloading bay. No gas containment needed.