Hellooo!

I was wondering if anyone else experiences this.

During some sort of argument or really just discussing anything with emotion, my emotions become overwhelming. My voice start shaking, I cry and I am quickly unable to speak. Not great for relationships. This also causes me to go to great lengths to avoid conflict.

Is this a typical in autistic folk? Or is it unrelated? I am just looking to try and explain whats happening

  • BilboBargains
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    4 days ago

    Emotional dysregulation is a common outcome for ND people. I think a significant root cause is invalidation. ND people have a different lived experience to most people and when that is combined with a societal environment that rewards conformance and punishes divergence, which usually manifests as confrontational outbursts (typically masculine) or fawning-avoidant (typically feminine) behaviour that seems dysfunctional to an onlooker.

    These effects can amplify over time if not dealt with and they explain many of the negative life outcomes for ND people, reduced employment, increased criminal convictions, diminished academic achievement and increased mortality. I don’t know what it’s like elsewhere but in England the state of mental healthcare is truly shameful. I don’t consider the English to be a humane society, they treat pets with more care.

    The good news is that it can be successfully treated and depending on when you start that process I think it’s possible to lead a life that isn’t constantly ambushed by emotional dysregulation. I was diagnosed at 47 ADHD, now 51 and while I am much better than I was there is a long road ahead. Still, what else am I gonna do?

  • Zarobi@aussie.zone
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    6 days ago

    This also happens to me, but I’ve noticed it’s only a very specific combination of factors that triggers it.

    • It has to be a high stakes engagement. Something that matters deeply to me.
    • It has to be addressed now, no delaying or waiting until I calm down. Either because it’s time critical or the other person refuses to let me disengage and follows me.
    • Talking is the only option. There’s no other solution to this confrontation than words. I’m not good at words so this stresses me out.
    • The other person has all the power in this confrontation. If I do nothing, they “win” by default
    • The other person doesn’t agree with me, and no matter what I say, it’s not working.

    So really it only happens for me when I’m backed into a corner and have to talk my way out. I get upset because it’s actually an unwinnable war. Actually, typing this out makes me feel a bit better about it, because it’s obvious there was never going to be a good outcome in those kinds of “discussions” anyway.

  • quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    from what I’ve learned it’s not typical of autism directly, but a typical pattern of people with PTSD and RSD tied into social and relationship experiences. PTSD in turn is common among autistic people and all Neurodivergents, and RSD is common among AuDHDers (and of course ADHDers).

    i also get overwhelmed quickly in emotionally sensitive discussions, or even discussions about the topic of emotions.

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      8 days ago

      Hmmm ok. I did talk to my brother and he has the same thing, and as far as im aware he isnt autistic/ADHD. Our parents argued a lot so maybe its from that lol

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        8 days ago

        your initial instinct that the conditions are related is not an invalid one. so so so many things surrounding Neurodivergence turn out to be “both ___ and ___”

        it also runs in families, so yeah.

        if you haven’t already, check out Neurodivergent Insights on YouTube. and Divergent Conversations, also YT. both feature Dr Neff who has so much great info, and the interview guests are amazing as well.

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    8 days ago

    Yeah, the diagnosis goes “trouble processing emotion”, not " has no emotion". Being overwhelmed by conflict comes with the territory

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    8 days ago

    In arguments with my wife, where I’ve felt backed into a corner, I’ve giggled. Couldn’t help it. Couldn’t stop it. That became another discussion, she was understanding.

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    8 days ago

    Has there been an opportunity to “pause” the argument? to put it on hold?

    I would suggest that so as to have an opportunity to feel/recover in a low-pressure environment.

    I understand this is probably a rare and unfamiliar occurance, still I urge to experiment.

    • minty@aussie.zoneOP
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      8 days ago

      In my previous relationship we did that, as my ex was even more conflict adverse, so we decided arguments can take as long as we want (could transition the argument to text).

      It worked well enough I suppose.

      But yeah, it doesnt pop up much

  • Lantsu@sopuli.xyz
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    8 days ago

    Kinda same here. I might start crying from frustration and this causes many issues, mainly it makes people misunderstand the whole situation. And trying to explain anything after that is pretty much impossible, except with my fiancé.