- Source: /r/2012Watch
- Posted: Jan 20 2012
- Author: dannylandulf
- Topic: /r/lgbt mod melt down.
- Note: Summary post used in lieu of posting all comments individually.
On Jan. 14, 2012 the mods of /r/lgbt (rmuser and SilentAgony) announced the decision to change the moderation style and tone of the the sub. The main theme of the announcement was that steps were being taken to remove perceived transphobic comments and trolls of all lgbt issues. The announcement was well received and although some didn’t see the need for stricter moderation, all seemed well.
Buried within the announcement, however, was the decision to label users with /r/shitredditsays style flair. Prior to the announcement, posters had been labeled earlier in the week…some for fairly innocuous reasons such as this or this.
Day 2: Highly upvoted threads calling for the ending of the red flair started popping up…only to be removed by the mods. Concurrently, the mods started telling anyone who disagreed with them their opinions were not valid while threatening bans and deletions to anyone that disagreed with them.
In response, the mods of another lgbt community (/r/gaymers) announced they had formed the new sub /r/ainbow as a splinter group for lgbt redditors that didn’t support the new tone of the moderators.
Day 3: SilentAgony creates this post trying to reign in the backlash over the new policies, while stating they would not ‘back down’ on their stance. Within the post SA retained the right to red label users.
Although they had been, as some complained, slightly overly-aggressive while dealing with dissent up to this point…things started to ‘get real’ in this thread. SA deleted and threatened bans to almost anyone who disagreed.
Under the increased pressure and growing unpopularity of the new rules…the mods caved late in the day on the issue of flair but they became increasingly abusive towards people simply for disagreeing with them.
Elsewhere, SilentAgony and Laurelai, a frequent defender of the /r/lgbt mods and current mod of /r/transgender who felt the need to be constantly hateful even to people just looking for information, teamed up with /r/shitredditsays regulars to create /r/rainbowwatch in order to ‘document the bigoted and privileged things said in the LGBT community, specifically subreddits like /r/gaymers and /r/ainbow’. Members of monitored subs found this amusing.
Day 4: Calls for the mods to step down became frequent. They were all promptly deleted as soon as a mod discovered them while the mods become evermore abusive to dissenters. Laurelai frequently jumped in to support the mods with the usual grace.
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Day 5: /r/lgbt mods appoint Laurelai to purposely antagonize the majority of subscribers.
Shit. Fan. Hits.
Members start proclaiming /r/lgbt is no longer a safe place because of the new abusive mod. One of the highest voted theads in sub history is removed because it is critical of the mod’s leadership. Rmuser admits this is the case while further calls for the removal of the current mods are highly upvoted only to be removed.
Outspoken against the current mods redditor ecube creates /r/LaurelaiWatch to monitor all the offensive things she says.
The mods plead for a return to normalcy while remaining abusive to anyone that disagrees with them.
Elsewhere, superdude4agze formally requests control of /r/lgbt on /r/redditrequest.
Also on reddit request, Laurelai requests control of /r/genderqueer.
Day 6: The /r/lgbt mods decide to flair themselves with ‘literally.hitler’. Another highly upvoted thread that found it offensive is deleted. Despite nearly all their comments reaching -60 or lower, the mods refuse to believe the majority does not support their actions.
Elsewhere, former /r/transgender mod ratta_tata_tat posts the modmail and mod-log from the past few days on /r/ainbow. The posts show Laurelai being abusive even behind the scenes and sheds light into some of the goings-on in /r/lgbt.
Much to Laurelai’s surprise, /r/genderqueer control is granted to another redditor.
Day 7: The /r/lgbt mods now delete any and all reference to the ongoing drama the moment it appears…driving people to vent their frustration elsewhere.
On /r/redditrequest another user requests that the admins step in as the /r/lgbt mods seems unwilling to apologize, allow discussion or remove themselves from power. The thread is highly upvoted and flooded with /r/srs regulars. At the same time, another redditor requests control of /r/transgender for similar reasons as the /r/lgbt petition.
Elsewhere, Laurelai posts a summary of her stance on the drama, being sure to note to anyone who isn’t a current member of the community that their comments will be deleted on sight. The post responds to the posted mod-mail by ratta_tata_tat by threatening that the admins are likely to not only take action against them but also delete their newly formed sub /r/TransSpace as well. Laurelai even shows up in an open letter thread in /r/ainbow to ‘call out’ ratta_tata_tat for breaking reddit’s terms of service by posting the mod information. When asked about where, exactly, in the TOS this rule appears…Laurelai ignores the question then fails to respond when asked again.
The /r/lgbt mods start entering conversations about the dust up in other subreddits but hold firm that any meta discussion within their sub will be deleted. The mods continue refusing to believe that people are rightfully upset with them.
Day 8: Not much other than discussions from all the mods taking place here, here, and here. SilentAgony offers her interpretation of events here.
Day 9: Fellow /r/transgender mod blueblank jumps into the petition for control on /r/redditrequest claiming that people that disagree with the current mods are likely just crack heads and prostitutes. Blueblank also is sure to send abusive PMs to any that disagree.
Elsewhere, ecube announces that both /r/laurelaiwatch and /r/rainbowwatch have been deleted due to an agreement between them and Laurelai.