Cross posted from https://literature.cafe/post/34674219

On October 4, 2025, Joaquin Deno attended his granddaughter’s birthday party in Sanford, Florida. At the end of the night, he headed to his daughter’s house.

Eight miles down Interstate 4, a speeding car swerved across multiple lanes at over 100 mph. It swiped Deno’s motorcycle, then hit a Ford Focus, causing a pileup, before driving away. Deno died at the scene, as did a county official and his wife.

Witnesses said the speeding car was a Dodge Durango. Police found that a Flock camera—a type of automated license plate reader (ALPR)—had spotted a Durango nearby at the time, and they arrested the owner, 23-year-old Lindsey Isaacs.

But Isaacs wasn’t involved in the crash, and officers had enough information at the time to exclude her as a suspect. Yet she still spent two weeks in jail and faced the threat of life behind bars for months because police didn’t use basic scrutiny to be sure their cameras implicated the right person.

Much has been written about Flock cameras making mistakes—including cases in which innocent people were detained at gunpoint because a camera mistook a 2 for a 7, or misread the state on a license plate.

But it’s worse than just imperfect software: All too often, police pull people over, arrest them, and even jail them based on camera misidentifications that officers could have caught with basic scrutiny. There are also numerous examples of officers with access to Flock’s database using it to stalk and surveil people in their personal lives.

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    3 days ago

    For anyone genuinely involved in this, please remember your issue is with automated license plate readers and surveillance platforms, not with Flock. Don’t let them become a scape goat just for another company to come in with a different product that’s less easy to spot or provides even less transparency. Pull this weed up from the roots.

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      2 days ago

      100% flock is just a symptom of rising fascism

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        There’s a lot. Axon makes some, Motorola makes some, LensLock, Patrol Eyes, Wolfcom. Just to name a few. It’s not very complex technology at all and when Flock falls if we don’t work to patch the underlying legal loopholes they’re using to provide mass surveillance capabilities to the government another will just rise.

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    Can’t believe how lazy cops have become. Get a hit on a similar car 8 miles away and can’t even do a basic investigation.