While right-wing groups are mobilizing angry mobs to yell at school board members that parents have the right to control what their children are taught, evangelical pollster George Barna told religious-right activists at the Family Research Council’s “Pray Vote Stand” summit Thursday that it is their duty to try to indoctrinate other people’s children into a “biblical worldview.”
Barna, one of the first senior fellows at FRC’s recently established Center for Biblical Worldview, specializes in studying what he calls “SAGE Cons”—Spiritually Active Governance Engaged Conservative Christians. What is most striking about FRC and Barna’s “worldview” project is how few people—and how few conservative evangelicals—measure up to their right-wing “biblical worldview” standard.
When the Center for Biblical Worldview launched in May, FRC President Tony Perkins said that a biblical worldview “is only achieved when a person believes that the Bible is true, authoritative, and then taught how it is applicable to every area of life, which enables them to live out those beliefs.”
Barna told “Pray Vote Stand” attendees that only 6 percent of American adults measure up to that standard of a biblical worldview—and only one out of five people who attend an evangelical church.
Their entire ideology is projection. They’re grooming kids, so they assume everyone is grooming kids.
Projection with a heaping portion of hypocrisy.
So, now they support indoctrination? Of course, they always have, but that’s another matter.
Just the right bible chapters though. If you actually read the thing, Jesus teaches the complete opposite of what conservatism is today.
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Jesus is very anti-capitalist all over the bible.
I think a better way to phrase it is that Jesus is very anit-exploitation of others.
I’m not sure I’d go so far as to say that Jesus is anti-private ownership of the means of production of goods and service. Capitalism can and has been done without it. Unfortunately people are scum and the free market tends to reward those who are able to successfully exploit others.
Every conservative accusation, is a confession.
I believe the term they prefer for this kind of behavior is “grooming.” He’s advocating for the grooming of children, by their definition.
George Barna told religious-right activists at the Family Research Council’s “Pray Vote Stand” summit Thursday that it is their duty to try to
indoctrinate other people’s children into a “biblical worldview.”fuck all the way off and mind their own business.Minor correction there, Georgie.
Or do you not think you should treat people the way you’d like to be treated?
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Oh trust me, I know.
I grew up in a church like that, and it’s perfectly obvious that they value power and control over love and support.
In fact, love and support are twisted into tools of power and control there.
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Religion is a mental illness and should be treated as such. Indoctrination of a child into religion is abuse and the state should intervene to bring these children into a safe environment.
That would be a good way to bring about the end of the state.
What a wretched scumbag.
I hope he catches ebola.
Stop it. Get some help.
Seriously, though. This is like cult-level shit.
What they want is chicken who are blindly obedient to authority.
Edit: Doh, that was supposed to be children.
Chickens can be better than sheep, but in my experience they are both bad metaphors for being blindly obedient.
🐓 lol
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Evangelicals are, at best, annoying. I say this as a Christian conservative. There are other (and better) ways of fulfilling the Great Commission besides arsing people into your favorite flavor of dogma.
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he thinks it’s “annoying” that people keep talking about it
That wasn’t “evangelicals,” alone. That was a lot of different kinds of people, most of whom were women. Roe vs. Wade was bad precedent. If you think women should have the freedom to abort pregnancies without interference, get it enshrined in actual law, not dubious interpretation of constitutional law.
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…Or here’s an idea all religious people can be free to practice their religion as long as it hurts no one and doesn’t infringe on other people’s rights. It’s simple really. It’s a huge world out there and not everybody’s going to believe in the same things you do and you just have to get over it. Don’t push your shit on other people. We don’t believe in it and stop trying to make us. Mind your own business and stop fucking up the world for the rest of us who just want to live peacefully with our families and friends.
It isn’t annoying at best evangelicals are mentally ill
What you described as ideal is what the US is supposed to be, and what you described evangelicals as doing is what evangelicals are actually doing, and doesn’t really rise above the level of annoying. Maybe they are mentally ill, but that doesn’t make them anything beyond annoying.
But people do have a first amendment right to preach. They don’t have a claim to a captive audience, though.
Dude… Evangelicals don’t think gay people should exist. Don’t think anybody in the LGBTQ+ community should exist. They want to strip us of our fundamental civil rights. That’s a little more than annoying. Yeah I described the ideal of what the separation of church and state should really mean. I don’t know why you’re pointing that out. We all know that’s how it’s supposed to work but that’s not how it is working.
I’m also not sure what you’re saying when referencing describing what evangelicals are doing. They don’t leave people alone they harass them. All you have to do is go drive by your local planned Parenthood and you’ll see a bunch of evangelicals Not minding their own business. If you look across our entire country you can find endless examples of evangelical people not minding their own business and not letting other people live their lives.
I don’t understand anybody who can look at any religion and not see the damage and pain it has inflicted on humans across time.
It might be annoying to you because you’re just another flavor of Christian but for the rest of us we are telling you that’s not the case.
Evangelicals don’t think that gay people should not exist, they think people shouldn’t do gay stuff. I don’t know what it is with the left, and especially the alphabet mafia, but you guys have a habit of characterizing the slightest disagreement as “they are trying to erase our existence.” That’s not what’s happening. Lighten up a bit. It’s a conversation.
Nobody is trying to strip you of any fundamental civil rights. Perhaps you’re trying to characterize the violation of other people’s fundamental civil rights as your own civil rights, and what you’re sensing is the civil rights of the innocent being protected, which sometimes necessitates not letting you do what you want to do.Yes, evangelicals, by definition, do not leave people alone. Yes, they are given to harassment, and they need to be checked against it. But what you see at planned parenthood isn’t your typical evangelical, those are activists. And yes, they can be violent, and that needs to be checked. People are free to hold signs, advocate, and form picket lines, but they are not free to interfere with people’s movement, hit people, or project bodily fluids on them. But again, that’s not evangelicals.
Religion doesn’t inflict damage and pain — people do. Conversely, you don’t seem to be able to look at religion and see the structures and advancement it has enabled. It’s not that you can’t know, it’s that you don’t want to.
You basically contradict yourself in the first sentence… They’re fine with gay people existing as long as they’re not gay? The mental gymnastics you’re going through in this whole thing would be hilarious if it wasn’t scary how many people think like you. First off you don’t even know what group I fall into when it comes to civil rights so it’s pretty presumptuous of you to assume my civil rights aren’t being hampered. I’m honestly sorry you have lived a life that has put you on a path to hate and I hope one day you can see we are all humans and we are allowed to be different. You’re allowed to not like it but it’s not your place to tell consenting adults who they can love. That’s a you problem not an us problem.
I was just giving you an example of something evangelicals do such as protesting planned Parenthood clinics. I don’t see how picking up a sign would change an evangelical to just be an activist and no longer be an evangelical Christian. Possible for them to try and fill both roles at the same time.
Once again presuming that I don’t want to know something. It seems to me you’re the one with the blinders on. You claim religion doesn’t inflict damage and pain? Because people do? Yeah those people do it in the name of their religion… I feel like it’s hard to have a conversation with somebody who seemed to have slept through all of their history classes. I also never stated that religion can’t be positive in somebody’s life. Spirituality can be very good and very beneficial for some people and that’s great and I’m happy for people who find some kind of relief in the world that we live in. What I have a problem with is religious people trying to push their ideas on others and using their gods as an excuse to commit atrocities against those around them.
It doesn’t seem like you and me can see eye to eye on these subjects because we’re not looking through the same lens. I’m sure we have other areas we could agree on and could make progress on. However, when it comes to having empathy for other humans I think that’s where we fundamental differ. We could make this world such a better place for all of us.
