In a world rapidly embracing plug-in vehicles, Alberta’s premier is skeptical — and she wants her province to go with hydrogen cars.
Yes, because currently the only way to economically create hydrogen at scale is from fossil fuels. Playing a shell game, instead of coming up with real solutions, does not address the fact that we need to stop burning fossil fuels.
The maddening thing is that we will always need oil. Oil is one of the greatest natural resources we have, and there are so many critical products manufactured from oil (medical equipment, etc) that we will always need it, but we need to stop burning it as that is having catastrophic effects on our climate.
That’s just plainly wrong. We can stop using oil by replacing it with hydrogen. BEV fanatics are inverting reality because batteries by themselves can never move us off of fossil fuels.
We can stop using oil by replacing it with hydrogen.
Where are going to get the hydrogen from?
Read my first sentence again:
the only way to economically create hydrogen at scale is from fossil fuels.
The oil companies are pushing hydrogen because the only economical way to generate hydrogen at scale is by making it from fossil fuels. They want you to switch to hydrogen so that you keep buying fossil fuels, and they have billions of dollars to pump into propaganda and misinformation to make you believe that that’s the better alternative.
Google “green hydrogen vs grey hydrogen”.
Where are going to get the hydrogen from?
Electrolysis of water. As it scales, it will be as cheap as other kinds of green technology. Just like how wind and solar plunged in cost, so will this.
You are reading too much BEV propaganda. The reason why hydrogen can replace oil is because it has a higher energy density and works as a chemical fuel. Batteries can claim neither. And if push comes to shove, you can make synthetic fuels out of hydrogen via the Fischer-Tropsch process. There are no situation where oil can’t be replaced once we accept the existence of green hydrogen.
Meanwhile, batteries can only work for passenger cars and basically nothing else. It’s not even useful for enabling mass transit, limiting it’s overall benefit to society. In short, BEVs are the ultimate form of greenwashing.
Electrolysis of water.
That’s called green hydrogen
As it scales, it will be as cheap as other kinds of green technology.
No it won’t. Electrolysis requires too much electricity and the physics behind that will not change at scale. Yes, electricity production costs from renewable sources like solar, wind, etc will continue to decrease as those scale and improve, but hydrogen generation will still be vastly more expensive than just capturing that electricity in batteries, or using it directly from the grid for mass transit.
The oil companies are spreading misinformation about hydrogen because they know it will ultimately result in having to use fossil fuels to produce hydrogen: https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/switch-to-green-hydrogen-will-lead-to-significantly-higher-energy-prices-in-2050-than-today-analyst/2-1-1426500
It’s a bait and switch tactic. Con everybody into commiting to hydrogen now, and then continue to sell fossil fuels to produce it when everybody realizes it can’t be done economically any other way.
Answer this:
**Why is the premier of Alberta, Canada’s oil province, pushing hydrogen? **
You expect me to believe that the leader of oil land is pushing an energy source other than oil? Come on dude.
You are reading too much BEV propaganda.
Lolz! Okay buddy. Cuz big battery is making billions of dollars profit… oh wait… that’s the oil industries.
Again, you are reading too much BEV propaganda. Electrolysis is an electrochemical process. It is the same concept as how batteries work. The entire process of electrolyzing water and using it in fuel cells is fundamentally the same idea as charging and discharging batteries. FCEVs are in fact, also EVs because of this. As a result, it should be extremely cheap and efficient once we get to mass scale. Not to mention the cheap nature of renewable energy.
Since the only inputs are wind, sunlight and water, the overall cost should be extremely low. It is much lower than having to put massive batteries in every car.
It’s also time you accept that battery companies are part of capitalism. They will lie as blatantly as oil companies. It’s delusional to think that there is no BEV propaganda. Especially given how big the battery industry is now.
This, in many ways, mirrors the ethanol industry. Even though that industry exists in “opposition” to big oil, it is its own scam. Ethanol is really just subsidies for big agriculture. It is arguably just greenwashing. Batteries are the same thing. They cannot replace oil, and as a result it is greenwashing. Anything you hear in favor of batteries is usually just big battery flexing its PR muscles.
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