• ijeff
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    9 months ago

    Thanks for this, Welp! Pinning for the day :)

  • @[email protected]
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    689 months ago

    Jeez. Just replace the keynote with a web page that lists specs, features, etc so I can decide whether I want to buy your product or not.

  • LCP
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    509 months ago

    7 years of OS support! That’s the kind of stuff I like to hear.

    • BlackEco
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      269 months ago

      Now I would really like for Google to retroactively upgrade the Pixel 6 and 7 update support to match the Pixel 8.

      • @jacktherippah
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        219 months ago

        Yeah, they’re not gonna do that. The GrapheneOS team thinks Google will give the 6 and 7 series 5 full years of OS upgrades instead of 3 OS + 2 security tho so fingers crossed.

      • @[email protected]
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        119 months ago

        I’d love it too with my 7a, but there’s no way Google does something nice just 'cause. They’ve already sold the phones with a shorter support window and they gain nothing by releasing more updates for those devices.

        • BlackEco
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          49 months ago

          Oh yeah, I totally agree with you, hell will freeze before Google does that.

      • LCP
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        Lol, there’s a non-zero chance that Google cancels the Pixel series.

    • ijeffM
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      79 months ago

      Definitely great to hear. It’s too bad they’re not bringing new pixel software features to older devices though. It’d be a great way to differentiate their lineup from the iPhone.

    • @kn33
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      59 months ago

      Between that and the replacement parts being available, this sounds like a phone that can be a long lasting one.

  • LCP
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    9 months ago

    Very happy to see their partnership with iFixit, and to see repairability actually be taken seriously.

    • BlackEco
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      179 months ago

      Well, they did not partner with iFixit out of good faith: France’s repairability score (which might serve as a template for a EU-wide version) incentivize OEMs to provide repair instructions and parts as it gets them a better score.

    • Blxter
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      89 months ago

      I have had to take my pixel 6 pro to the Ifixit like 6 times two times were my fault (broken screen) others were the phone just actually dying for no reason.

    • @kn33
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      59 months ago

      That’s one of the things I’m most excited about, too

  • @[email protected]
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    219 months ago

    Does the pixel now allow wired external displays? Alt-dp Mode? Any news of a desktop mode similar to dex?

    • @[email protected]
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      109 months ago

      I will buy a flagship when I can run grapheneOS and use desktop mode, preferably having a sd card with that set up.

    • ijeffM
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      79 months ago

      I haven’t heard anything on that. It’s really such an odd omission to not support USB-C Alt mode. It renders the Pixel devices incompatible with AR glasses.

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        Yea that was probably the only reason I would have upgraded from my 7 pro, and if it’s not there, looks like the 8 series is a pass from me.

        The fact that there is no mention of it anywhere when even the latest iPhones mentioned it seems like enough evidence, but I even contacted Google pixel support and they said the same thing, doesn’t have it.

    • ijeffM
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      19 months ago

      Update: There’s actually a tweet up on [email protected] suggesting the hardware supports it but it’s disabled in software. Should be able to enable if rooted.

  • The Giant Korean
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    209 months ago

    The whole Fitbit subscription required for all the detailed health features is keeping me from seriously considering a Pixel Watch 2. I get health/fitness metrics with my Galaxy Watch without needing to subscribe to anything - same with Garmins and other watches.

    • ijeffM
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      119 months ago

      Ditto. I’d rather pay once for the functionality when buying the device. I wouldn’t even mind another one-time payment to unlock new functionality later - but a subscription? No thanks.

  • NimNim
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    179 months ago

    Well, it seems like I’ll let my $200 Google credit expire because the pricing of the new Watch is ridiculous and unjustifiable for me to purchase it.

    • @FFbob
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      69 months ago

      Grab the pixel buds pro? Those are 200.

      • NimNim
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        49 months ago

        True, but I got 7 Pro last year and I’m happy with it therefore don’t want to upgrade my perfectly fine phone especially considering its low trade-in value if I decide to trade it for an upgrade and receive the Watch2 as a free (!!) bonus. However, for someone actively looking to upgrade their phone, I think the bundle deal is absolutely great for them.

    • @TastehWaffleZ
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      29 months ago

      Can’t you can get the new Pixel Buds instead?

  • @droidpenguin
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    169 months ago

    Ugh, why must the Pro be so much larger than the regular Pixel 8? I really would prefer an 8 Pro with a smaller size.

    I’ve been wanting something smaller than my OnePlus 8T, but the 8 Pro is even bigger.

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      even worse is the artificial segregation. The 8 can’t even get the same software features as the 8 pro despite the same hardware to run it.

    • @[email protected]
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      29 months ago

      I know right? The OnePlus 8T literally feels like the perfect size for me. But OnePlus themselves have abandoned this size, and in general 6.5" devices are not as common as they were a couple of years ago.

  • @GlitzyArmrest
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    169 months ago

    The same optical fingerprint reader it seems? That’s literally the only improvement I wanted, so if it has an optical fingerprint reader that’s a dealbreaker for me.

      • @GlitzyArmrest
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        59 months ago

        Yeah, I forgot to mention I have the 7 and the fingerprint reader is the only part of this phone that I genuinely hate.

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            29 months ago

            Yeah, I haven’t really had issues with the battery, especially since I plug it in every night. I plug it in the dark shortly before my corneas are burned out by the fingerprint reader.

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              9 months ago

              On my Pixel 4a it performs worse with GrapheneOS and Sandboxed Google Play Services

    • @[email protected]
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      29 months ago

      You get secure face unlock now as an alternative if the fingerprint sensor isn’t cutting it.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      29 months ago

      It seems like the face unlock is a lot better now. Since it’s level 3. That means you can use Google pay and such without the fingerprint sensor.

      • @GlitzyArmrest
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        29 months ago

        Does it work well in the dark? If so it might not be so bad.

      • @GlitzyArmrest
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        39 months ago

        Probably partially my fault since I fat finger it, but it blinds me all of the time. On top of that, it’s very inaccurate when compared to my partner’s phone which has an ultrasonic one.

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    9 months ago

    I see that Google is following the trend of limiting certain software features to the Pro model: Pro controls, Video Boost, Night Sight Video and multi-shot RAW. I hope Pro controls will eventually come to older models, either officially or with a modded APK.

  • @[email protected]
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    109 months ago

    7 full years of OS updates sounds pretty promising. Swap out the battery a few years in and this phone could last a while yet. Pretty impressive.

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        Oh they do? That’s great news, nice to see. I’ll have to keep that in mind when the Pixel 9 launches when I’m looking for a new phone.

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    9 months ago

    Just pre-ordered the 258GB Pixel 8 in rosé

    Currently own a 4a and love it except for the battery life and the sometimes bad performance

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        9 months ago

        Because:

        1. I will buy it anyway
        2. I get free earphones when I buy now
        3. It will arrive next week

        The 7 years of updates and that the software experience will be excellent, sold me to it. I don’t even consider Samsung phones because I absolutely hate their software. I also don’t consider buying an IPhone because I own an IPad and while not a terrible experience, it’s worse than on my Pixel.

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    99 months ago

    Good to see minor battery life improvements to the Pixel Watch 2. Hopefully that upgraded heart rate sensor is actually accurate.

    https://youtu.be/TVGk48jcdtg

    Pixel Watch was embarrassingly bad in health tracking compared to the Apple Watch SE. It’s cheaper to get an Apple Watch SE + (discounted) iPhone than just a Pixel Watch.

    And please get rid of the Fitbit subscription, Google.

    • @[email protected]
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      129 months ago

      Yup, I considered the pixel watch for my android phone but Garmin has an advantage over it in every category while having no subscription. I would have considered an apple watch if it were compatible with android.

      I think the pixel watch is doomed to fail unless they can separate from the Fitbit model and continue to improve the hardware and software.

      • @Cheesus
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        69 months ago

        I still wouldn’t consider an apple watch over a Garmin. Apple/Google/Samsung need to get their battery life on par with Garmin.

      • Blxter
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        39 months ago

        had no idea Google owned Fitbit. But looks like you don’t miss out on many features by not subscribing to the Fitbit pro thing. Could be wrong. But Yea screw a Fitbit subscription.

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          59 months ago

          They moved detailed sleep tracking insights under the subscription model. It’s pretty disappointing.

          • Blxter
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            19 months ago

            What would be the difference (if there is one) from the detailed sleep tracking and non detailed version?

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              39 months ago

              Sleep phase details, which can be useful for monitoring sleep quality over time.

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            I can’t stand sleeping with a watch on so not getting the sub hasn’t bothered me a bit.

            • ijeffM
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              19 months ago

              Interesting! My smart watches are almost solely for sleep tracking and are used mostly as regular time pieces during the day.

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                I use my smart watch for 3 features

                1. As a watch
                2. For notifications
                3. For sleep tracking

                I don’t really do any sports, but it’s nice to know how many steps I took today and how far I walked. (it’s between 100m-20km per day)

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      do you trust that guy because he calls himself a scientist or because he has fancy graphs, maybe his accent? hmm… must be the lab dress shown for 5 seconds in the intro.

      I saw both of his videos where he compares pixel watch and apple watch against polar h10 chest strap as a reference device, but somehow the reference device is ranked lower than apple device in his pixel watch ratings? How does that happen?

      how does a reference device wind up being less accurate against the device you are testing against? I couldn’t find him testing them against an actual medical equipment.

      Him comparing Apple watch against Polar H10: https://i.ibb.co/MnSJXR1/image.png

      His ranking when testing Google pixel watch where polar h10 is less accurate?: https://i.ibb.co/Xt9hS4J/image.png

      Google is shit at hardware and nobody wants a subscription for a watch but maybe, just maybe, this guy seems like a apple fanboy?

      The guy doesn’t reveal his data or the code he uses to plot the graphs, just 100s and 100s of affiliate links. How the hell people consider this scientific and why the fuck is it so popular?

      I’m no scientist but I don’t know. educate me