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Just one small problem, Ben. Where’s the heat from the condenser going to go?! FUCKING AQUAMAN?!?
We are going to bottle the heat and return it to the sun!
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I think the purpose isn’t to directly cool the planet, but the ice has much higher reflectivity and absorbs less heat from the sun compared to the ocean.
If this thing can produce ice at a large enough scale, it could have a real effect. However that doesn’t solve the issue of those gaseous dudes beating up the escaping heat men and trapping them in.
Perhaps it would be possible to use that heat to generate electricity to offset some of the power cost of the device?
As wacky a concept as this seems it may be necessary to prevent extreme weather from becoming the norm.
They just sell it to the highest bidder. Who doesn’t like a little extra warmth?
We package it and send it to the moon. It’s cold on the moon.
It’s being cooled down by the ice.
Just like Daddy puts in his drink every night.
And then he gets mad.
This sounds like one of those ideas on the level of “If we punch another hole in the ozone layer, the greenhouse gasses can escape!”
Solving climate change with a digital tech demo hosted on a GoFundMe page is a worse idea than even comedy writers could come up with
I’m guessing the goal is to convince a few people on the edge that we’ve already solved it, so they care less. Slowing down the movements progress ever so slightly.
Has some real “why doesn’t Tesla put an alternator on the wheels” energy
Don’t most electric cars have regenerative braking?
Life imitates Futurama
Saw a study recently that placed refrigeration management as one of the most impactful things regarding climate change… pretty sure that doing it on a big scale is a horrible idea
No, it’s not possible unless the heat is being transferred outside of Earth and that requires a ton of energy. Also Kyle Hill did a video where he did the math and the cube required would be over 30 km^3
Oh, so I could just make a bunch of ice cubes in my fridge and throw them in the ocean! It would only take me the rest of life to make one of these at home!
Refrigerants are potent greenhouse gases, so yes.
This is beautiful
Bestagons will save us all.
I wonder if they realize that, according to the laws of physics and thermodynamics, the amount of heat and energy they consume and put into the world in order to produce those ice blocks, actually exceeds the amount they’re removing. So making ice blocks might help in the short term, but in the long term, they might actually make it worse, if not for the arctic, than for other places on the planet. Unless they’re doing other stuff like planting trees, the best they could ever hope for is to simply break even; to cancel themselves out.
The ice isn’t to cool the water, the ice is to reflect most of the incoming light.
Sea ice keeps the polar regions cool and helps moderate global climate. Sea ice has a much brighter surface compared to many other Earth surfaces, particularly the surrounding ocean. The darker ocean reflects only 6 percent of the sun’s energy and absorbs the rest, while sea ice reflects 50 to 70 percent of the incoming energy.
-- https://nsidc.org/learn/parts-cryosphere/sea-ice/quick-facts-about-sea-ice
Thank you very much, i was looking for this comment. The issue with 1°, 1.5°, 2° C of warming is that at some point you will break a critical level where the process is greatly accelerated because less/no sunlight is reflected by the ice caps, further increasing the energy absorption. This is especially apparent in Greenland and the Alps (and probably other glaciers), where the uncovered earth now absorbs WAY more light than the sheets of ice did, thus essentially making the melting process irreversible (at least in our comprehension).
I suppose but if you are reflecting it into greenhouse gases then the air temperatures go up instead.
Not really. Greenhouse gases don’t absorb all wavelengths of light. Generally they only absorb parts of the IR spectrum. The 50-70% of light reflected isn’t absorbed by greenhouse gasses because it’s not in a wavelength that it can absorb, it mostly radiates back into space.
Ah, and much of that energy would be absorbed on the way in. So the additional energy absorbed on the way out depends on how the surface material changes the reflected light or later radiates the absorbed energy.
Kinda. Most of the light from the sun is in the visible spectrum and the atmosphere does not absorb those frequencies well. Incoming light that gets reflected (snow/ice) stays in the same wavelengths so it passes back out just as easily. However the light that is absorbed by the ground is re-radiated mostly as IR and the atmosphere, specifically greenhouse gases are really good at absorbing those.
There’s a lot more going on though, it’s really complicated. Here are 2 vids that do a good job at explaining it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFOuoD3aHw&ab_channel=SixtySymbols
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8&ab_channel=SabineHossenfelder
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ok good, you said the line. Just checking.
Could it be that the change in reflectivity compensates that?
The site says it’s an architecture journal so…
you’d have to source the ice from someplace cold. Like drop a comet on the pole or something.
Globa waba?
ooh I wanted to make something like this but use a hyper-reflective surface(that sends IR rays into space causing a net heat loss) to cool the water, I was more planning for it to be in warmer waters and “push” the water though a heat sink using tesla valves but those might not have been needed
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Source for the curious.
https://www.dezeen.com/2019/07/27/refreezing-the-arctic-geoengineering-design-climate-change/
I think letting freon leak into the atmosphere was actually reversing global warming so Big Air Conditioner started making up lies about “CFCs”.
