• Imperor 🎲🎮OP
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      -41 year ago

      @H1jAcK It’s a literally a meme and a joke.

      But sure, the PHB does say:

      Insight. Your Wisdom (Insight) check decides whether
      you can determine the true intentions of a creature, such
      as when searching out a lie or predicting someone’s
      next move. Doing so involves gleaning clues from body
      language, speech habits, and changes in mannerisms.

      To me this still isn’t the same as a lie detector, especially if they never met the character before. That twitch in the eye? Maybe they just got allergies.

      • Ready! Player 31
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        31 year ago

        Insight would help you determine if its allergies or lies. Yeah it’s not a lie detector but if you roll a 25 it should be doing basically the same thing.

        • @Idreamofcheesy
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          11 year ago

          I’ll never outright say if the NPC is lying, but yeah if the player rolls a 25, “something seems off about this guy.”

        • Imperor 🎲🎮OP
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          11 year ago

          @ReadyUser31 I mean, kind of, but the whole body language to identify liars thing is pretty much debunked by now.
          What’s a tell with someone might not be for someone else.

          I much prefer my party squirm under “You’re sure they’re not being entirely truthful.” over “Yeah, they’re lying.”

  • @YoFrodo
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    21 year ago

    Also I thought perception is something the DM asks for, not the players. Players can roll Insight if they want. But perception is always DM controlled, I thought.

    • Imperor 🎲🎮OP
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      21 year ago

      @YoFrodo That’s the case for passive checks for sure, but I can’t seem to find that in the PHB directly.

      At my table everyone is free to suggest what skill they might try to use to accomplish something (unless I request something anyway) and I veto or agree, depending on how good their RP-reasoning is or how hare-brained the scheme is.

    • @Sixner
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      11 year ago

      " I wanna scan the field for any movement…" is a player initiated perception roll. Not an uncommon thing at my table.