Logline

Three computerized villains return to cause problems for the Cerritos crew.


Written by: Edgar Momplaisir

Directed by: Bob Suarez

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    291 year ago

    Tendi just wanting to play in the sand is cute.

    Boimler being completely fed up with the assignment is great - he knew exactly what he was walking into, but did it anyway (I’m glad it actually had payoff at the end).

    Rutherford has finally resolved badgey, and seemingly learnt nothing.

    I didn’t feel like mariner had a whole lot to do in this episode, she just kind of tagged along.

    • RBG
      link
      fedilink
      English
      51 year ago

      Rutherford has finally resolved badgey

      I don’t know about calling it resolved. Badgey is now an omnipotent being currently not interested in killing Rutherford or the Federation. It might not stay that way necessarily.

      • @aufheben
        link
        English
        11 year ago

        By this reasoning you could say that no story is resolved until the character is dead. Anybody could always come back and cause trouble.

        • RBG
          link
          fedilink
          English
          21 year ago

          Yes. Like Q, who is… an omnipotent being.

        • JWBananas
          link
          fedilink
          English
          21 year ago

          Especially the one who specifically called out the Black Mountain when they were ascending.

    • @HardlightCereal
      link
      English
      51 year ago

      Rutherford learned to value his creations unconditionally without caring what other people think of them

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    161 year ago

    A bit of a weird episode in that the protagonists didn’t solve much, the two problems just sort of fizzled out for their own reasons.

    Kind of surprised that Peanut Hamper was up for parole-- Memory Alpha doesn’t list a specific stardate for A Mathematically Perfect Redemption but judging by the adjacent years and the stardate AGIMUS listed she’s been in Daystrom for less than two years.

    IMO this episode confirms that what we saw last week wasn’t an anomaly, Rutherford’s got it bad for Tendi. It’s kind of weird to have him focusing on her encouragement to the exclusion of Mariner (who was in his immediate vicinity!) otherwise.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      111 year ago

      A bit of a weird episode in that the protagonists didn’t solve much, the two problems just sort of fizzled out for their own reasons.

      One can say the same for plenty of good stories like Indiana Jones.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        41 year ago

        I want to disagree with this but… you’re right. Heck, in Raiders, Jones actively makes the entire situation worse before the story kind of fixes itself.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    13
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Did anybody else feel like the plot required a bit more suspension of disbelief than usual? The federation really needs to invent antivirus technology and firewalls.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Honestly it’s really fleshing out the lore about why everyone in the galaxy is so averse to AI.

      I liked the triple parallel twist that all three AI ended up just wanting nice things instead of galactic domination. That’s a rare thing in superpowerful AI stories.

    • z500
      link
      fedilink
      English
      81 year ago

      The federation really needs to invent antivirus technology and firewalls.

      That sure sounds like the Federation to me.

    • JWBananas
      link
      fedilink
      English
      21 year ago

      Antivirus and firewalls aren’t as useful when you can bypass shields and either physically beam or holographically project something directly into the override circuitry. You don’t need to take over the computer if you can take over the controls.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    131 year ago

    An odd number of Binars… and we find the missing pair operating a bridge console at the time of the attack.

    Certainly fits the profile of the other acts of treachery followed immediately by betrayal.

    I have to admit, with the revelation that the ships are all being stolen with fake debris left behind… I’m at a loss as to what the endgame is.

    • I seriously doubt they’re being salvaged for parts. Lower Decks has already done that with the Pakleds.

    • The ships don’t really fit a profile. We have the huge vertical warbird to the tiny Orion vessel. The militant Bird of Prey to the sciency Binars.

    • Only the Orion and Ferengi vessels could be argued as sharing a mission—with their sorting of random weapons. But even if the ship is after weapons, there are better targets.

    • Taking the crews prisoner seems impractical.

    Really, the only things the ships all have in common is a lower decker that is vindictive and gullible enough to commit treachery. But that’s not an objective, that’s a means to an end.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      8
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      With the revelation that they are being taken, I immediately thought of Pria, from The Orville. Essentially, she was an agent from the future sent to steal The Orville for future collectors. The unidentified ship is clearly extremely powerful despite its small size, which screams time traveller to me. And they seem to be taking examples of ships from all different empires, as if for a collection.

      My other thought is that it’s some party trying to turn all these empires against The Federation, as, to date, no Starfleet ships have been attacked. It’s not unreasonable that their neighbors could see that as suspicious, and conclude it’s an advanced Starfleet attack vessel.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        61 year ago

        Is it extremely powerful though? The ship doesn’t begin its attack until after an inside job has been completed, not unlike in Star Trek: Generations.

        You do bring up an interesting point with the lack of Federation ships being attacked. Though the BIA and the Bynar ship throw half a wrench into that idea. Not technically Starfleet, but not unaffiliated either.

        My personal suspicion as to why we haven’t seen a Starfleet Vessel being attacked yet is because the Cerritos is ultimately going to be one of its victims… and that’s best saved for the finale. My second guess is that a Parliament ship will be a casualty. We saw a CGI model for the first time in the Ferengi episode, but the CGI models are typically reserved for fan service (Titan, Crystaline Entity, Voyager, DS9, Soverign Class), have a lot of use (Cerritos, Shuttles), or are engaged in combat (Bird of Prey, Sh’Val, Clumpship, Texas Class, Breen Vessel).

        Also note the CGI Bird of Prey being added to the LD intro in S2, which foreshadowed the CGI battle in 3 Ships.

        The Parliament class, to date, has not really fulfilled any of those roles—which has my attention in a conservation of detail sense.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          11 year ago

          We saw a CGI model for the first time in the Ferengi episode

          Can you explain what you mean by this? Isn’t everything we see in Lower Decks technically CGI?

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            41 year ago

            The Parliament class we first see in Cupid’s Errant Arrow is 2D illustrations. It’s not until Parth Ferengi’s Heart Place that we get a 3D model.

            The chaotic battle we see in the opening credits are mixed. The Romulans and Borg are 2D. Starting in S2 we add 3D Clumpships and Birds of Prey. S3 adds 3D Crystalline Entity. S4 adds 3D Breen ship, and 2D Whale Probe.

            The Parasite scene is mixed. The Cerritos is 3D. The Parasite is layered 2D giving the illusion of 3D.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        21 year ago

        I immediately thought of Pria as well. And to McFarlane’s credit, at first I was trying to remember which episode of trek that was.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      3
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Oh no.

      It’s another menagerie, isn’t it?

      Edit: that or the Pakleds started hiring subcontractors.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    121 year ago

    Boimler and Tendi are rarely paired up for their A/B-plots, as well as Rutherford and Mariner. I was kind of disappointed much wasn’t done with that, they were just kind of … there and it was Boimler and Rutherford’s story chiefly. Not much character interaction between the duo. That made it a bit funnier when Rutherford was like “Tendi is right” and Mariner was taking a bit of umbrage to that.

  • @ThrowawayInTheYear23
    link
    English
    121 year ago

    Mariner and Tendi noping out on Rutherford and Goodgey was hilarious.

  • @aufheben
    link
    English
    111 year ago

    I hope we’re done with those robots. Jeffrey Combs is a lot of fun as the evil supercomputer but I really don’t want to see anymore major plot lines around them.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      11 year ago

      Agreed. We don’t need any more computer bad guys. Besides, Daystrom appears to be tight on evil supercomputer AI storage as it is.

  • JWBananas
    link
    fedilink
    English
    41 year ago

    Are we heading toward a Crystalline Entity type situation here? It looked like Badgey was orchestrating attacks/salvage but wasn’t necessarily behind the actual mystery ship.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    31 year ago

    I thought it really was one of the weaker lower decks episodes. Didn’t quite care about the Ferengibepisode, but it was a nod to DS9. This one, no couldn’t relate to it…

  • @jerome
    link
    English
    11 year ago

    Are there any trekkie groups in Cleveland Ohio? It’s been so long, I don’t know where to look anymore.