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I have been using Skiff for about a year or so and was only satisfied with their email which can forward your Gmail emails and have aliases for free, the calendar app didn’t notify me so it was useless but now it does and it works very well, I could also import my Tutanota calendar very easily. The drive has 10gb for free and can now download all your Google drive in one click and you can use IPFS as storage, this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

What do you all think about it ?

  • @sir_reginald
    24•1 year ago

    this company is really making it easy to get out of Google with a smile.

    yet another fake privacy initiative. this post is clearly an ad

    • @Chobbes
      3•1 year ago

      I consider marketing something as “for free thinkers” as a huge red flag.

  • @[email protected]English
    24•1 year ago

    Probably an ad, but much more subtle if so. The old ones were so blatant. :)

    What makes you do it with a smile? What does it give you that proton or tutanota doesn’t?

    • Mnmalst
      14•1 year ago

      What does a whitepaper have to do with cryptocurrency?

        • Mnmalst
          11•1 year ago

          Whitepaper is just a different term for a technical documentation[1] and has literally nothing to do with cryptocurrency. Your reasoning in your initial post doesn’t make any sense what so ever. I guarantee most of the companies you mentioned, if not all, published white papers for various topics in their past. I can only repeat myself, white papers have absolutely nothing to do with crypto currency. Just as one example. Check the Signal protocol[2] Wikipedia page and search for whitepaper.

          It’s ok to not know what a white paper is but then don’t start your posts with “Looked pretty interesting, until I saw the “read whitepaper” button.”.

          That being said, where in the skiff white paper did you find crypto currency? Admittedly I didn’t read all or even most of it but a simple search for “currency”, “blockchain” or even “chain” doesn’t return any results. I really hope you don’t talk about the word “crypto”, cause that has an entirely different meaning in that context.

          [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

          [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol

          *edit: Removed some unnecessary inflammatory language.

  • _haha_oh_wow_English
    12•1 year ago

    Never heard of it, am suspicious.

    Also, those icons in the preview image look like an abstracted Peter Griffin.

    “Lois, look: I’m icons now! Hehehehehehehehe!”

          • _haha_oh_wow_English
            0•1 year ago

            IDK, I’ve overdosed on Imagination™ and the lines separating reality from fantasy are just gone now: Maybe it was all just some crazy fever dream.

            Fun unrelated fact: It’s is just a contraction of it and is, its would be what you’d use to show ownership (no apostrophe) because English is wacky like that.

            • @[email protected]
              0•1 year ago

              Oh no the radom dude online who speaks another language made a quick mistake. Better make sure to correct him! Why do people always get a boner from grammatics? Its ridiculous! (hehe)

              • _haha_oh_wow_English
                1•1 year ago

                Ok fine, don’t learn anything.

                For what it’s worth, I didn’t even know English was your second language: You write better than many native speakers, don’t get discouraged it wasn’t my intent to offend.

  • @[email protected]
    10•1 year ago

    Looks interesting. The first glance it looks like “Yet another company trying to make Email what it isn’t”, which means breaking all compatibility with existing mechanisms (e.g. IMAP) at cost of getting locked-in into their own ecosystem (unless you pay premium and enable IMAP back like Proton does).

    This is why while I want companies like Proton and Tutanota succeed, I don’t use their email products for business purposes.

      • @[email protected]
        6•1 year ago

        the day I don’t find a provider with IMAP support is the day I’ll leave email for good. You won’t force me to use your absurdly bloated and full of telemetry web clients or your incompatible encryption.

        OpenPGP + NeoMutt has been my email workflow for 10 years now.

          • @[email protected]
            4•1 year ago

            I didn’t mean this specific one. I don’t know anything about Skiff other than this post is a sketchy camouflaged ad for them.

            If they supported IMAP maybe I would look further, but that’s my very first requisite that they didn’t meet.

    • @cheese_greater
      11•1 year ago

      People need to stop trying to make email as a medium private outside of choosing providers that don’t scan or snoop or offer unauthorized (by which I mean YOU do not consent to them sharing with ANYBODY or ORGANIZATION) externalized access or monetize on that which you send/receive/retain.

      Don’t send an email unless you are aware and consent to it being preserved and shared endlessly with zero input or consideration for your view of that.

      • @[email protected]
        8•1 year ago

        Mails being encrypted end-to-end would obviously be ideal, but yeah. How many people outside of our privacy bubble use a private service, and/or have PGP set up? How many even know what PGP is?

        The messages that sit in my inbox being encrypted and not being accessed by the provider I’m using is realistically the best I can hope for.

        • @[email protected]
          4•1 year ago

          I’ve been told multiple times that having a @protonmail email makes me look like a conspiracy theorist, once in an interview. Privacy is way more niche than I’d hope for.

          • @[email protected]
            2•1 year ago

            In an interview?

            Glad they let you know their ignorance on security up front.

            Seriously, do they leave their doors open for anyone to walk in, or do they use badge readers like everyone else?

            • @[email protected]
              1•1 year ago

              Some companies don’t see privacy as security. They want to know your background, when you punch in/ punch out, if you’re the type of person to leak secrets over the “dark web”.

              Some also don’t believe in privacy at all, they believe in contract. When choosing a platform they want to know if they can sue them for breaching an NDA.

              I did not receive an offer from that specific interview but yeah, I admit it was odd and didn’t inspire trust so I wouldn’t have accepted anyway.

        • @cheese_greater
          4•1 year ago

          PGP to me is literally only of any interest as a quick way to encrypt anything/files/documents (in a preferable format to zip or archives etc) in a keyfile type fashion where you need the credential and password for any given decryption and it can be done so quickly if you have a good app.

          I would never use it for like email stuff, if we’re talking about messaging its gotta be Signal or Threema or Matrix(Element, Session) etc. Maybe Olvid or SimpleX is interesting too but I’m open to a larger discussion of messaging and the available platforms and discussion of the nitpickier deets.

      • @[email protected]
        3•1 year ago

        there is no central authority controlling the system, making it more secure than traditional centralized file storage systems.

        Not really. Maybe more available but almost certainly less secure compared to files just sitting on a single server somewhere in terms of data being accessible to attackers.

    • qaz
      1•1 year ago

      What is the advantage of IPFS over other storage types?

      I think it allows syncing without requiring a central node, that’s how AnyType seems to use it.

      What I don’t understand is how can anyone claim that their mail is encrypted, if Skiff does that for them (as in, non-Skiff to Skiff mail conversation)? There’s still a third party involved, right?

      I think it’s mostly about the fact that the mail is encrypted after being received by the Skiff mail server.

  • @Decentralizr
    1•1 year ago

    Switched a while back from proton to skiff and loving it. Also the send emails later feature is great.

      • @Decentralizr
        1•1 year ago

        First because of the price, they give away credits if you apply for it. Our company saved around half of the price vs proton. Second pages. It’s great to work as a team on pages and the integration between calendar, pages, drive and email just works great. It’s basically like Gmail without the spying

    • @joel_feila
      1•1 year ago

      What are big differences between the 2

  • visnudevaOP
    0•1 year ago

    For those who think it is an AD, it isn’t. I just like Skiff so I made a post about it to see what people from the privacy sub think of it, clearly and without much explanation most of you don’t like it. I genuinely thought it was a good company, now I am not sure anymore without knowing why. I would have loved more explainations about why is it so bad.

    • @sir_reginald
      1•1 year ago

      with a quick look at their website we can have a taste of how much they care about privacy. Their website is connecting to various third party domains:

      • matomo: an invasive analytics software
      • sanity.io: which I didn’t know, but from their homepage “Treat content as data” doesn’t sound good.

      and that’s just by viewing their homepage connections.

      I’m sure there are more problems, but I don’t want to invest more time in a random sketchy company when just in their homepage have demonstrated how little they care of privacy.

      By reading other comments, their email doesn’t support email clients, which is a huge issue.