Just wanted to share the link to the livestream of the designer Matt3o looking at the first batch of the MTNU keycaps. They are made by GMK out of PBT, with double shot legends. The profile has been developed by Matt3o and GMK as a Cherry-height spherical angle shape. First batch is currently shipping out and has the WoB, Beige and Susu colorways.
I find it really interesting and I don’t think I read anything here regarding this.
No blanks and limited, expensive kitting. I want to try it, but probably never will.
Sure they are expensive! Good news is, it looks like these designs are the very first offerings with this profile and with time a lot of options could become available (a second GB by another designer started before the first batch was even produced - MTNU 800)
Yeah they just too expensive for 40s and not amazing kitting, no 2x3u space bars means no buy from me as most of my boards are 2x3u.
They either need to start adding basic 40s support to base kits as with GMK Cherry (it’s three keys) or go like SA and split the alphas and mods so you are only buying the mods you actually need.
Paying way more (it’s like £70 for the 40s kit, with fuck all space bars in it, on top of the mods for full size you’ll never use it just bad value.
Sure, SP SA is still expensive but at least you’re only buy what you need.
Out of curiousity: 3U space with 3U or 2U wires?
I kinda hate 3u bars for three reasons:
- They are not standardized. the bars you just spent 30$ on might not even fit
- it’s never stated what wiresize the 3U bars need when buying caps
- there’s only one bar in mosts sets.
3U bars are a half nightmare and need to be standardized. I much prefer 2.25/2.75 for those reasons, although it looks like shyte compared to nice and symmetrical 3U.
Proper 3u spaces with the proper 3u spacing for the stabs and proper 3u wires, for ALL of my boards. If you doing it properly its just as good as any of the other common sizes of space bars.
I probably have about 20 boards now that are 2x3u, its by far my preference for bottom row as I personally do not like a huge number of keys on the bottom row, its a complete waste for my workflow.
Most modern GMK Cherry and SA do not have the issue with availability and they ALL are the correct spacing. It has improved massively from when I first started getting boards with 2x3u, now you get 2x3u, its extremely rare to get 1x3u in modern GMK or SP kitting, Sure you usually have to buy the space bar kit so its not cheap, but then I have to buy the 40s kit most of the time anyway so…
If you expecting to pick up cheap sets from aliexpress or the like and have amazing 40s support complete with plenty of split space support, then its possible but highly unlikely. I have long moved passed the point I can be bothered with sets like that, I do not want to waste money on stuff I am bodging to fit as I just wont enjoy using it.
If the caps don’t have good 40s support (which is usually limited to a few designers who hate 40s) then it likely wont have 3u bars, so they aren’t getting my money anyway. I do have 40s with full sized mods and full size space bars so the option is there if I ever really want a set with shitty 40s support, but I rarely use those keyboards.
Always liked Susuwatari but could never get myself comfortable with MT3 profile. So glad for the reminder, placed an order - finally going to get my own set of Susuwatari, thanks!
Wow! That’s looking really good for my brief browsing the video.
It feels like there are a lot of other low sphericals now-- XDA/MDA, CSA, Akko’s ASA, XVX for backlit-- at much lower prices and shorter lead time. $115 for a 100% set stings when I’m used to sub-$40 sets from China.
I guess what GMK could bring would be brand power and standardization. Buy a few cheap sets and they’ll likely be subtly different profiles, but I’d expect MTNU sets would be interchangeable, which is a bigger deal the further you get from 104-ANSI boards
More choice is always better! I discovered this profile because of the Colevrak addon, which sold badly it seems and won’t be produced again in future runs - that alone makes it lose almost all the appeal for me. Let’s see how it pans out, as you say this could become a proper standard.
