• @[email protected]
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    487 months ago

    Can probably extend that a bit. I’ve very rarely seen a sex scene in a movie and found it to actually be relevant.

      • @[email protected]
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        77 months ago

        I mainly find that if I want to watch sex I will watch sex, if I want to watch a movie I want to watch a movie.

        • @[email protected]
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          37 months ago

          I enjoy sex in my movies. It’s totally different when it’s a movie vs porn. To me it’s a bit like saying if you wanted to watch violence you’d watch Liveleak hah

    • @HollandJim
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      Recenty: Oppenheimer.

      People remember the imagined sex scene during the inquisition, but often forget it was imagined from the wife’s point of view. That moment was pivotal to the plot, but honestly - it’s every husband’s worst nightmare about cheating. You can imagine all the crazy Basic Instict stuff you want since you know its generally unrealistic, but if you care about your partner, you never want to have her to have that moment in her head because it’s too real.

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah it’s also weird and fake. It’s like it’s just an intermission segment used as marketing enticement for creeps.

    • @darthelmet
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      Yeah. I feel like things like fight and sex scenes are often filler. They’re like black boxes that only matter to the story at either end. Why are these characters having sex/fighting? What’s the outcome? Has this confirmed their romance or made them rethink things? Who won the fight and what does that mean going forward?

      The actual details of either kind of scene are essentially suspensions of any narrative or thematic development in favor of pure spectacle. Now sometimes spectacle can be good. But while I’ve seen good action scenes that are exciting to watch, what would even make for a good sex scene as far as spectacle goes? People aren’t exactly looking to get a boner in the middle of a 2hr movie. Are there people who are just really appreciative of some kind of abstracted eroticism separated from stimulation?

  • Codex
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    Film only has itself to blame really. With the death of midbudget movies, you don’t get enjoyable eroticism or romance centric movies anymore. Indie and foreign cinema used to also be good sources for erotic drama, especially queer stories. Sex and sensuality are languages, and they can be used to tell a good story.

    But we don’t tell good stories in film anymore, not with sensuality or action or suspense or anything else. We get sold “marketable” stories now. Bland CGI action disconnected from any character scenes. Bland heterosexual relationships culminating with boring sex. Flat framed characters standing in front of a greenscreen “acting” at a tennis ball that will be replaced with the villain later.

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    207 months ago

    Most of the time, unless it’s a film about love or sex, romance is just shoehorned in there for no reason. I think the only genre of film that should be allowed to do that is comedy. Otherwise it seems like lazy story telling, especially in action movies.

    If we want porn, we have the Internet in our hands. So random sex scenes make no sense.

    Why would we want barely formed romance sub plots?

    Film should be used as a tool to gain insight into these experiences, of which some of the more profound might be seduction, companionship, and loss.

  • @zepheriths
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    Yeah, because it adds nothing to the story. “Here to proof they are in love not like the past hour has already made it clear”

  • htrayl
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    I’m not saying every sex scene is good but, the puritan undertone of the US really comes out in these conversations. The idea that a sex scene adds nothing to the experience is simply wrong. I mean, you could say the same for fight scenes, cinematic landscape scenes, most scenes without speaking. These all clearly change and often improve the experience of watching, and so does a sex scene. It can say a lot about the state of the characters minds and it provides you significantly more emotional sympathetic impact.

    • @[email protected]
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      47 months ago

      Maybe there’sa Puritan streak, but I suspect there’s also a strong streak of people very comfortable with pornography who see modern cinematic sex scenes as cheap and meaningless attempts at porn.

  • guyrocket
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    Seems kinda odd to me that sex should be segmented away from “normal” life. I am seeing several comments here along the lines of “If I want to see sex I’ll watch porn”. Isn’t it normal for sex to be part of life? Why must it be so separate from everything? Seems kinda unhealthy, tbh.

    To be clear that I am not advocating doing it on the front lawn. But it is normal for sex to be part of one’s “regular” life.

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      I think sex is normalized as a part of life, but what about people who choose not to make sex a part of their life? Not saying there should be no sex scenes in movies, but how about making some movies and shows where sex isn’t shoehorned in, where characters of the opposite sex don’t need to be romantic as a standard

      I know the example that gets thrown around lately is the DND movie where Darvis and Holga just have a solid platonic relationship

      • @HollandJim
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        A lot of Hollywood &-ish cinema decouples sex from relationships, as if it’s a “good boy” treat for winning the day or if it’s a a cautionary tale of urges gone wrong. Try the foreign cinema of Spain, Italy or France and you can see how it’s part of the character’s development and growth in a film, and not just a plot point.

      • @S_204
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        I’m gonna just say that the people who choose not to make sex a part of their lives don’t matter here. They’re insignificant and irrelevant.

        Advertising drives Media. They’re not making art for each unique demographic to appreciate here, they’re trying to get maximum eyeballs on the 42 minutes they are in control of so they can make the most money from the other 18.

        Sex sells. It really is simple as that. Gen X, while more diverse in their sexuality, is still predominantly heterosexual couple dominant and that’s what television is going to continue to show them.

        We’ll start seeing more alternative lifestyles shown as side pieces, and there’s going to be a show here or there with a lead character that’s not out of the book but will and grace was twenty years ago and you’re still not seeing a proliferation of gay centric shows replacing traditional family centered ones because even the most liberal among us are still going to gravitate towards what they’re most comfortable with.

  • @[email protected]
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    I like seeing two beautiful people going at it. Kinda disappointed in some cases where they blue ball the viewers.

  • @DharkStare
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    I agree. If I wanted to watch porn, then that’s what I’d watch. Just do a nice fade to back and skip the sex scene. It would be even better if they also skip the romance subplot as well. Hollywood needs to learn that it’s possible for two people of the opposite sex to interact with each other without having to fall in love and/or have sex.

    • CephalonC
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      Despite it not being a solid majority overall, it’s still quite significant that there’s such large percentages, which shows it’s less of a minority than you might think.

      • @[email protected]
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        Fair enough, but the claim is for a whole generation. Which is not supported by the numbers.

        Obviously significant minority might also be impressive in comparison to other generations, but there is no comparison to other generations.

        Overall quite a weak article.

    • @[email protected]
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      Same for people who drive cars in movies. Like, who goes to the supermarket with his car?

      Either do a Formula 1 movie or don’t.

      • @cristo
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        We’ve already got those. Family

      • Dojan
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        Right? Having two actors awkwardly on top of one another moaning is just weird. Having them in bed in the afterglow, talking, could be potentially plot relevant.

        Also it’s always fucking straight people. People go around all “don’t shove your gayness down my throat” as though we don’t get heterosexuality shoved down our throats on a daily basis.

        • @RGB3x3
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          The show Sex Education does a pretty good job of showing the different types of sex that can happen between all different kinds of relationships. If you’re looking for that kind of representation, that show has it.

          It’s also a really good show regardless.

          • Dojan
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            I’m not interested in watching sex scenes. Diverse or not, the diversity is just a pet peeve of mine.

            A while back I watched a Japanese film about a sex worker. It took almost the entire film before it showed a sex scene.

            I also browsed around for something new to watch, saw a trailer for “Who Is Erin Carter?”, a mother and her daughter is in a grocery store, which gets robbed. They get attacked, mother fights back, and in a twist she and a robber recognises one another. Seemed interesting! Actual show had like two or three sex scenes within the first 25 minutes so I stopped watching.

            If I want to watch porn, I’ll go to a site with porn and pick a genre I enjoy. Usually with burly hairy men, typically no women involved.

            If I’m watching a film or a show, I want a gripping/engaging story, something pornography doesn’t tend to have.

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              27 months ago

              Sex Education is mainly about the really good story. And the sex scenes, which are mostly just about fooling around, have an actual purpose. It’s character development first and foremost to tell a story about the types of love and types of sex that can occur.

              But different strokes for different folks, pun intended.

              • Dojan
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                Yeah that’s fair. It sounds like something very appropriate for an American audience given how prude and repressed they tend to be. I’m sure it’s good, but I’m currently more into mystery stuff. Hence the title “Who is Erin Carter” and the ominous trailer really set these expectations, only for my interest to drop at all the shagging.

                I realise that makes me sound quite prude. I’m actually a massive slut, just not interested in watching actors getting it on. I want thrill, and suspense.


                I also feel like for most films/shows, including the sex scene is just pandering to people who enjoy that. Which is fine. Sometimes it might relate to character development, but the development rarely happens during the actual scene, other than “these two shagged.” Often you could’ve just “summarised” it by showing the afterglow or whatever.

                More than that, I feel like you can tell great stories without ever really involving sex. I don’t actually think about sex all the time, but when films and TV is so rife with it, you get the impression that the producers absolutely do.

    • htrayl
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      Yeah, and while we are at it, either make an MMA fight or don’t that either.

      Or do landscape photography and don’t bother with establishing shots.

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    Sex scenes in movies and series are weird. People have sex like they really gotta pee afterwards. I can’t relate to the way these characters have sex.

    Maybe I’m having sex wrong…

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    It’s the same with rappers

    Who wants to hear a rapper talk about his dick and banging? I’d just watch some gay stuff for that.

    To me it just seems like an insecurity.

  • Ethalia
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    Because it’s all the same cookie-cutter formula they like to use. It’s bland, uninteresting and forgettable. May as well skip it.