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Originally posted by u/Scew on 2021-07-02 02:04:36 (oboxqh).
Maybe I’m deluded, I can’t tell anymore. Recently i’ve been toying around crypto. Lost a lot of money on it, No where near financial freedom atm, Thought everything was going to be fine but things aren’t working out for me atm. Wondering if it’s coming, Wondering if i’m human or an actual god toying around with myself.
I know i’m beyond human, But i don’t feel like i can break the physical laws which annoys me as i want to live beyond them by having more health and wealth to enjoy my time here. But seems like I am not having the ideal health and wealth that i’d like to experience. Any tips? This worried mind has been very hard to control.
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-08-25 11:02:59 (ha8hp17)
We’re of the impression that there is no procedure to speak of that would teach anyone how to dream. The destitution you’ve addressed should push you into more of a direct contact with intent. True intent takes no effort from our experience. You may have old patterns built up that are dragging your energy down.
My advice for the latter part would be to take up some kind of practice used for working with “energy” as a means of breaking up those old patterns. What that practice is will depend on you.
Originally commented by u/Scew on 2021-08-26 03:10:28 (habceos)
What type of energy works are available in this dream? Reiki? Yoga? Breath work? Acupuncture? Any suggestions?
Thanks
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-08-26 03:24:09 (habeg3h)
Never tried anything in-depth with reiki or acupuncture ourselves. Yoga in most varieties probably works, personally some form of tai chi was attractive to us. Breath work usually accompanies whatever form of practice you end up working with.
As a side-note, one of the themes prevalent in this sub is not focusing on any technique too much that one becomes reliant on it. After making any kind of progress, I would attempt to re-evaluate your intentions in such a way that you naturally don’t hold on to patterns for very long.
Originally commented by u/Scew on 2021-08-26 04:12:13 (habln5k)
Never tried anything in-depth with reiki or acupuncture ourselves. Yoga in most varieties probably works, personally some form of tai chi was attractive to us. Breath work usually accompanies whatever form of practice you end up working with.
As a side-note, one of the themes prevalent in this sub is not focusing on any technique too much that one becomes reliant on it. After making any kind of progress, I would attempt to re-evaluate your intentions in such a way that you naturally don’t hold on to patterns for very long.
Let’s say I have an intent to be rich or healthy again. I’ve tried to acknowledge that in my mind, That is happening, it will happen, It has happened. I drop the worry about it, I enjoy the ride as it unfolds?
I try to manipulate crypto prices in the coins i’m invested in yet i see no results instantly. Wondering if that will even work longterm, Seems like the physical limits are too long that i’m unable to feel powerful but rather just a powerless ant sadly. Having experienced this year after year while being positive has been painful. Even when telling myself i’ve been letting go for so long only to find a brutal awakening that hey it’s not working and it’s becoming unbearably worse.
It’s been quite bad that i’ve actually started contemplating suicide, I’ve been in a hotel last week at the 25th floor looked down was wondering, It would be interesting to just end it here jump down and let it end and see what would happen next, However i was horrified by dying early, was worried for the people around me. I wanted to see the story till the end, Yet i was like nah it’s just a temp dream they don’t exist their me anyway. These thoughts ran across my mind with discussions in myself, it bothered me even as i was home i’d still think of the hotel and jumping down and i’d read more about suicide content. Eventually i stopped i’m feeling better now for the past few days, But I hope i’m not delusional with how i’m handling things. Either way won’t matter it’s all a phase. I’ll probably survive for another 3-5 it would take a lot to end the story, I still got fight in me for now. Even though there’s no fight here but continuous suffering.
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-08-29 14:04:36 (harkjdm)
Let’s say I have an intent to be rich or healthy again.
My first question would be, so you aren’t rich and healthy? Or “something happened and now you are no longer those things and have to get back to them?”
I’ve tried to acknowledge that in my mind
that
As opposed to this (what I have right here, now) that would be “over there” some “other time.”
That is happening
it will happen, It has happened.
This happens. “It” objectifies what you’re trying to subjectify
I drop the worry about it, I enjoy the ride as it unfolds?
We enjoy the ride as we unfold >.>
I try to manipulate crypto prices in the coins i’m invested in yet i see no results instantly.
Investing in crypto from my side of things has been more about investing in future infrastructure as a long bet. With the understanding that it could dip significantly at any point but in the long run the technology will be adopted widely enough and with proper infrastructure that the value of what you put in, at the vary least…, should be what you get out without needing to adjust for inflation… and if it gets adopted widely enough there may be a pay off. I too would likely enjoy the benefits of being an over-night quintillionaire, but would I want my legacy built on “a random stroke of ‘luck’?” A similar “random stroke of ‘luck’” could also then take away your entire legacy.
My apologies on my absence, but if you like crypto and would like to see a middle finger directed at me personally check out the spike in ethereum over the passed couple of weeks and I bet you can guess when I had no access to any way making money off this spike. It hard dropped back to a little more than it was before I was away, just in time for me to come back. :)
I wouldn’t get too caught up in the day trading of it. If you are, figure out how to get an algo-trading bot up and running for yourself. Then your computer can pay more attention to it than your human body could ever compare to. I’m pretty sure there is at least one open-source algo-trading bot available, (something about a gecko if I don’t spend time digging.)
I hope you’re doing alright. It’d be a shame if you cut your feet out from under you before you got to the starting line of the entire extravaganza you have planned.
Love & Hate,
Scew~
Originally commented by u/Scew on 2021-09-11 23:23:55 (hcfktfc)
My first question would be, so you aren’t rich and healthy? Or “something happened and now you are no longer those things and have to get back to them?”
Got tinnitus don’t feel healthy ringing is quite annoying 24/7
Lost 500k in crypto, no longer as rich as i used to be
I’ve googled your gekko bot thingy, It seems discontinued no idea to get that working, wish it was as simple as 2 clicks and your done
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-09-16 00:06:49 (hcy9swn)
Have you given some thought to what interests you and excites you about your present reality? What possibilities and potentials do you entertain? Are you convincing yourself that money gets in the way of those things?
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2021-08-27 10:46:30 (hahw70d)
Good health and freedom to have access to most of what i’d like to do would be nice. It feels like i can finally start living once i got health and passive income flowing to my bank account, Other than that life feels stressful.
Money does make life a lot more easier since I don’t even to be too frugal about my exposure to life.
Like right now for example, Would be nice to take a private jet and go to one of those nice islands, It would be nice to go for a walk in Maldives or Seychelles or bora bora. They got some really nice beachs and a 5 star luxury would mean low population density which is just amazing. I’d like a break from crowded areas.
I’d like to indulge in life without much pain, I’ve got tinnitus, I’ve been gaining weight and feel unhealthy lately. So even the activities I participate in seems quite limited as i hear this noise that’s been so loud lately. Louder than usual. I’ve got kidney stones, They suck but it’ll probably get better, Been peeing foamy pee so at first i thought i had a chronic kidney illness, But doc told me it’ll go with pill use overtime, So my worry has dropped abit, But the tinnitus has been going on for 6 years now and has been just annoying as hell.
My highest interests seem just freedom to finally to live without much thought, I’m not focused in any particular field as i’ve been searching my passion for so long. This character is currently 30, has been in aerospace, dropped it moved on to mechatronics engineering dropped it, switched to a buisness major. Doesn’t like work of any sort, is not interested in working no matter what it is.
Was into deep self-help/meditation/fitness/nutrition/wimhofmethod/half assed yoga etc.
Was into awakening / enlightenment content that tried to go for it via psychdelics
Has done the strongesthardcore psychdelics it could find just for awakening/enlightenment purposes which backfired with trama PTSD/anxiety episodes. Still suffering till today but stable compared to what it was 2 years ago. However something feels off the body feels weird with it’s vibrations and something just feels missing and it can never come back ever again which is worrying somewhat.
Seems like it’s already made up it’s mind with wanting just health and money. I have contemplated this for so long and there is just no answer at the moment probably will never be as it seems like the end goal.
I do have positive beliefs that it’ll workout eventually but sometimes i’m worried that i’m deluded, I believe i’ll be a billionaire eventually. And my health being ideal.
Why does intent take so long to deliver? Would love it to be more instantaneous or low buffer.
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-08-29 13:51:09 (harj6on)
It’s great that you have ambitions and things to desire and look forward to manifesting.
Intention and manifestation in the context of the current reality is a learned skill. Like any skill, it requires commitment and time. So if you want to learn a musical instrument, or a sport, or coding, or whatever it may be you dedicate attention, time, effort etc to develop and improve that skill. In the same way, approaching intention and manifestation can be done in the same manner.
You can start with smaller manifestations, like manifesting $10, or seeing a golden sphere, and slowly increasing the value of the intent relative to your subconscious beliefs. Manifesting a million dollars might be a far stretch for your beliefs right now, you might need a little more proof and encouragement from a smaller amount first. Using methods like the ones on r/dimensionaljumping or r/nevillegoddard can be very helpful.
While you learn and develop those skills, spend time nurturing the aspects of yourself and your life that you appreciate and are grateful for having. Your current mode of reality relies on feeling good or feeling bad and you want to train the body to feel good most of the time by focusing on the things that allow that to happen. It’s pointless to focus on what you could potentially have in the future with feelings of regret/guilt/fear/sadness etc. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the smaller things that you have right now.
When you start lucid dreaming you probably won’t be an omnipotent god from the get go. Over time you learn to become more lucid and take control and manipulate dreams to your preferences. This is another skill you can learn which gives you a good perspective of the development process.
And most importantly remember to let go of yearning. Yearning will only bring more yearning and distract you from your goals and ambitions. Take a step back from the emotional intertia and let it dissipate. You don’t have to be anywhere or do anything. It’s not a have or a must. Doing things is a choice and a preference when you want to do them. It’s your reality after all.
Originally commented by u/syncretik on 2021-08-30 12:34:49 (havrcpj)
Thank you, I have been there however, I’ll take another look.
Hopefully i get this intent and letting go sorted it out eventually with some success with some inner being guidance.
Originally commented by u/-therewasguy on 2021-08-30 23:56:24 (haxglv8)
I’d be most interested in having a wider scope of understanding that to which the term “subjective idealism” refers beyond its situation within philosophical contexts.
After all, these physical setups are pragmatic. I value that in it. We call it magick. Or, lucidity.
I think each perspective has a unique formulation for what “it” is. Now, I’m not asking about each one’s secret version, that’s awfully familiar.
Oh, you know what. I just got it. That’s what “subjective idealism” is…a way to discuss “it” without exposing the subject itself to unnecessary vulnerability.
This is not to imply that there is a danger but hey, subjects have values and some may value this or that less or more.
Cool thanks for reading, got close to the curb at the end there, in driving home the point.
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-02 23:07:42 (h3stoos)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-02 23:33:19 (h3swpdg)
What is the wider scope of understanding ?
What are you asking? I’m talking about the juice. You don’t got it.
What are the physical setups and how they are pragmatic ? What do you mean by pragmatic ?
Woah. Have some authority for your self. I didn’t post my comment to attract servants.
What do you mean by vulnerability ?
What do you mean by subjective idealism?
Agree
Haha, yes, I do in fact agree with my self. It’s good.
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 01:12:41 (h3ta2ja)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 01:28:29 (h3tcbml)
All is mind and all is mental. Reality is made of my mental commitments.
Do you see, then, how asking me to define your mental commitments is subservience?
Or do you dare to request that I exert myself for an internet stranger “Simple_Ad_3”?
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 01:49:46 (h3tfdv5)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 01:52:46 (h3tfuej)
Ah…
Yes there is that sort of issue with having “casual” conversation…this subreddit (scratching head)
The thing is for me that the mind of most others is boring and useless. I see they wait a lot for “mental changes” they don’t acess the full benefits of this life to gain themselves the most power. Power of imagination, stuff like that, principles and trans-lifetime knowledge.
At least if they are useless, they could be interesting or inspirational, or stimulating in some way, perhaps innovative. Then I can use it in my own style because I have enough imagination to do it. Mainly though, where’s the use? I prefer substance instead of frills, usually.
This is casual conversation for me. This is my first life in-carnata so I’m enthusiastic about going beyond the limits of physical form and to experience a good foundation in my knowledge for following lifetimes, if I go incarnata again.Wbu? What’s your intrigue with mental ideation, weird ways, etc etc (or whatever is your model of understanding? I really don’t know what the popular stuff is these days, been doing my own thing for a while lol )
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 07:21:37 (h3uqf04)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 11:27:07 (h3vij6y)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-02 11:54:06 (h3r799f)
What are its implcations? Haha :)
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 07:34:09 (h3urzr9)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 11:51:14 (h3vl2hz)
This seems like a bit of a reduction, what difference are you pointing to that “simply mental activity” is not the same thing as “mind” itself?
Originally commented by u/Scew on 2021-07-08 02:23:10 (h4dam0q)
Oh… this one seems more logical than to say mind is king. Maybe mind is a puppet king. Even if experience is mental activity, it doesn’t necessitate mental governance. That is an additional assumption.
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 22:29:49 (h3wx688)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 22:39:05 (h3wxy41)
The agency points at *subjective ideation* and that is not necessarily dependent on the mind.
Where’s the line from solipsism and mental subjective idealism in the description?
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-04 06:01:24 (h3yaxpx)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 11:31:42 (h3vj0t8)
Hmmmmm…
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 22:28:26 (h3wx26s)
The problem with SI is it is in many ways quite simple and once you’ve got it there’s not a ton to talk about, but there is a lifetime of work in taking that intellectual realization and making it more than just a shallow intellectual realization.
That’s one perspective anyway
Originally commented by u/riceandcashews on 2021-07-09 01:46:26 (h4hgq1b)
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Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 03:54:01 (h3txuet)
This is it. Thanks.
Originally commented by u/Calculating_1nfinity on 2021-07-13 07:37:02 (h4yu7fd)
This is an interesting perspective. I see your logic as a cloud of ideas.
Originally commented by u/[deleted] on 2021-07-03 22:47:28 (h3wyog8)
Beautifully put.
Originally commented by u/EdwardArtSupplyHands on 2021-07-29 13:07:51 (h6wvlyv)
Exactly
Originally commented by u/riceandcashews on 2021-07-09 01:43:53 (h4hgdg4)