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Throwaway@lemm.eeBanned to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 3 years ago

Democratic Party members react to Rep. Tlaib's attempt to justify use of antisemitic chant

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Democratic Party members react to Rep. Tlaib's attempt to justify use of antisemitic chant

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Throwaway@lemm.eeBanned to Progressive Politics, Gun Control, Single Payer Healthcare and Free Abortions for All!@lemm.ee · 3 years ago
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Rep. Rashida Tlaib is getting backlash from fellow Democratic Party members who have asked her to remove a social media post justifying the phrase, "from the river to the sea."
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  • toomanypancakes
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    Oh, do conservatives care about racism now?

  • PizzaMan
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    Yall need to learn what a strawman is.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean

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      Hey, how about we not use phrases that can also be in support of genocide in some contexts? It kind of sounds like, what’s that phrase y’all like so much? Oh yeah, a DOG WHISTLE.

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        Any word can be used as a dog whistle. Are you suggesting nobody ever say anything?

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          Does that go the other way? The things you declare to be dog whistles can be dismissed?

          • PizzaMan
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            Well of course we can dismiss everything out of hand. We wouldn’t want to think now would we?

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      You usually provide a pretty good example

    • Throwaway@lemm.eeBannedOP
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      Literally aljazeera, and you were complaining about me using breitbart a few days ago. Pot, meet kettle.

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        I linked aljazeera because they’re on the pro-palestine side, making them a far better source to describe what is meant with this particular pro palestian chant.

        Fox News is just doing a strawman.

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          They’re owned by the state of Qatar, and they’re biased in favor of them. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

          Qatar funds Hamas. Here’s the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

          Here’s a reuters article about it if you don’t trust wikipedia. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-cash-to-crypto-global-finance-maze-israels-sights-2023-10-16/

          If you don’t like Reuters, here’s a 2015 NPR article. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/06/18/414693807/why-israel-lets-qatar-give-millions-to-hamas

          So yeah, the state media of Qatar favors Hamas.

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            This is some woosh material right here. I am aware they are biased.

            “The reds are saying “XYZ” How awful!!!” - Blue

            “UVW” - Link to Reds website

            My guy, I am aware. The point of linking to aljazeera is to show that they aren’t actually saying “XYZ”, they’re saying “UVW”. I’m pointing out that fox News is doing a strawman and supported my point by linking to a pro Palestinian biased source. But evidently that sailed right over your head.

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              Why would a pro-Palestinian biased source be a more trustable source of explanation on what the slogan means?

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                Because they’re the ones using it.

                Instead of using strawman yall could be doing iron men.

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              Thats not how that works. Qatar is not hamas, they support hamas but ultimately they put themselves first.

              When they have an awful plan, theyre going to downplay it.

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                It’s a strawman. I don’t know how else to tell you.

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    The republican party that shouted Jews will not replace us? And the president that said there were very fine people?
    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-charlottesville-led-to-the-capitol-attack/

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      “Very fine people” is the most out of context quote that is easily dismissed if you actually cared to research the full context. If you care so much about truth, and if reality had such a liberal bias, surely you’d want to be correct about this?

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      Whataboutism.

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        If we can’t make our own posts to add context, then whataboutism is all that’s left.

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          Didn’t we already talk about this?

          If that didn’t work, how about “Banning lefty posts is the only thing keeping this sub from just being like every other political sub on lemmy. Not banning them would defeat the purpose of the sub.”

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            I’ll point it out as many times as is needed.

            To quote another user in a different thread:

            If I say the Chinese government is committing crimes against humanity no one thinks I’m a racist. If I say Donald Trump is a moron, no one thinks I hate all Americans. If I say the Israeli government shouldn’t be responding to Hamas’ attack the way they are? Oh man, now I’m an antisemite and hate all Jews!

            The fuck is wrong with this world?

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              *want

              Not needed, you didn’t need to repeat yourself. You wanted to repeat yourself.

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