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Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.
No taxes or Faucis, no speed zones or toll roads. No liberals, no gun laws. No windmills, no poor people. A separate currency, stock market and gold depository. “Complete control of our own immigration policy.” World-class college football, a farewell to regulators. And unthinkable, unimaginable wealth.
“We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we’re going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”
“The independence of Texas is good for humanity as a whole,” he added to cheers.
Kamau-Imani, a Houston-based preacher, was among 100 or so people who spent the weekend at the Waco Convention Center for the first conference of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which since 2005 has advocated for the Lone Star State to break away from the United States — a “TEXIT,” as they call it.
Supporters of the movement said they are more energized and optimistic than ever about the prospect of an independent Texas, and pointed to appearances or support from current and former lawmakers — including state Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, who spoke at the event — as evidence that their movement is far from fringe. The get-together also came as TEXIT supporters celebrated what they believe is crucial momentum: Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.
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No more social security, no more medicare, no more federal funding, no more FEMA, no more federal protections, but they don’t tell their supporters that because they wouldn’t want to live without those things. Seriously, these people don’t seem to grasp how the government works for them. Texas alone does not have what it takes to replace that void.
Yep. How to fund it has always been one of those waves hands “It’ll work itself out” things to these people. They think that a government can run on no taxes or loans or anything a working government needs.
They’d get to keep all the income taxes currently going to the federal government.
Except they wouldn’t because the Texas government would NEVER be able to pass and enforce a Texan income tax.
So what, they’d have to generate ALL revenue with a 6ish% sales tax? Hah, good luck. More realistically they would balloon that sales tax to something painful that fucks them on long-term financial health. And also probable impose some crazy protectionist tariffs. The most regressive possible tax schemes.
It’s fun to speculate how bad it would be for them, especially knowing this is not a passable ballot measure.
God, I wish they could just do it in exchange for them accepting all the fucking yahoos who think Christo-fascism is a good idea in the other 49, and in exchange for evacuating everyone with an ounce of sense in Texas.
That would be a genuinely outstanding tradeoff.
no poor people
unimaginable wealth
These and other points are lacking on details, as usual.
They meant to say:
- ???
- Profit!
- Underpants
As soon as we declare independence, we’re going to be wealthy.
Hey I’m pretty sure the UK could let you know a thing or two about aforementioned topic.
A separate currency
Oh yeah, just FYI, world market does oil trade in US dollars which you wouldn’t have access to and would make selling that oil to US aligned countries really difficult. And the countries that aren’t US aligned, they know that, so they’ll be expecting deals for them or they won’t buy your oil either.
I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.
That’s going to be really difficult as you’ll become more toxic than Chernobyl soil on the International market and Texas has no where near enough domestic trade to actually hit that 200% GDP in seven years.
But let’s be frank here, an independent Texas would not go bankrupt. They have enough cash and product to stay afloat. But much like the US Civil War taught us all, that the Confederates found out super fast what happens when they get cut off from literally every market on the planet Earth. It makes it really difficult to keep that bottom line from going red and really forces governments to either make really difficult calls on how to govern their slowly decaying nation or start a war and try to convince the world that they should trade with them.
Texas would not crumble overnight but they would be hurting very badly economically. They would in fact be very poor. Very, very poor. If they think their oil is going to save them, go ask Venezuela how that’s working for them.
Well according to the guy in this article, there will be no taxes. So it would go bankrupt pretty quickly. Unless the plan is to nationalize the oil companies? Seems antithetical to what they are going for and the USA seems to have a secret clause in the constitution that it must overthrow any government that does that.
One additional key issue is that they would also use a lot of federal institutions that way.
World-class college football
In a game that is only played in one country… (well two if this genius is successful)
“The independence of Texas is good for humanity as a whole,”
I doubt it is possible be more narcissistic and self centred.
Personally, If Texas ever declared and the USA allowed them to leave I have a feeling they would be begging the US to readmit them to the union in a very short time.
These people fail to realise that so much of what they benefit from being in Texas is because it is part of the USA.
What happens when NASA and the DOD remove all their facilities and staff?
What happens when they have to defend themselves?
Sign trade agreements with the rest of the world?
What happens when the USA slaps tariffs on their oil to protect US interests?
Etc
etc
etc
etc.
It reminds me of children talking about how cool it will be when they are adults and don’t have to listen to mom and dad.
They can stay up all night and play games!
They can eat ice-cream for breakfast!
They can do what ever they want!!!
The guy the quote in the article is definitely a believer in make-believe fantasy land nonsense. Look up Claver Kamau-Imani.
What happens to the Republican party without Texas’ Electoral votes, senate and house seats? Wait… I think I’m warming up to this idea.
A state where basic electrical needs fall apart if it’s too cold wants to leave? Lol bye.
I support Texit!
Because that worked out so well for them the last time
no poor people
L. O. L. Is he planning on massive wealth distribution (no), or is this more of a ‘just remove them’ sort of situation (more than likely)?
As soon as we declare independence, we’re going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”
Yep, you’ll be drowning in wealth, just ask Brittan. Hell, maybe you’ll finally be able to keep the power on all winter for once!
In ten years we’d invade them to bring them democracy and take their oil.
I didn’t make this
Fucking DO IT. don’t stop them. That shit will be hilarious.
There are some of us that were born here, don’t have the ability to leave, and are sane.
Whackos in Waco.
I suppose the magic sky man is going to do all this for them.
The guy in the quote is all-in on sky magic. Look him up.
Let Mexico have it back, I say. They’ll all love being the bitches of the drug lords who run things down there.
work on providing a functioning power grid first
Don’t threaten the rest of the country with a good time, Texas.
