This is a fucking insult
I’m in the US so I tip people who rely on tips to make it by in this capitalist dystopia, like waitstaff. That’s fucking it. Anyone else asking for a tip can get rekt.
Why is this even an issue? Are people actually tipping everyone now? Stop it! Don’t let people manipulate you and keep your money.
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More importantly I tip people who have a direct impact on quality of service to me, without negative society consequences. A waiter can pay attention to me see when my drink is empty, or can sit around talking until an alarm goes off that it is time to check. A waiter can know what is really good/bad on the menu, what drinks pair with the meal - or just take my order. Of course an overworked waiter cannot do any of this, but most of the time waiters are not over worked.
I top for delivery, but I feel dirty as there should be nothing they can do to give me better service that is legal. I feel like sometime a company offering delivery will have a driver who speeds, and that the driver gets tips for breaking the law means the company is liable (read deep pockets and million dollar judgement against them!) for incentivizing their drivers to break the law by allowing them to accept tips).
As someoe who relies on tips to survive, let me guide you.
Where you SHOULD tip: Coffee shops, Sit-down restaurants with waiters
Where you should NEVER tip: Everywhere fucking else
Baristas at my local shops make $8 an hour without tips, and waiters aren’t paid much better. Everything else pays much, much better, they don’t need your tips.
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The machines should tip the customer for doing job well. After all, it’s him doing the work cashier typically does.
they might not know it but they do tip me
Great work me! Here you go bud.
scans two bags of cheese together
Grate work m8.
meat is also cheese.
This is why every item gets it’s own bag when I’m using self checkout (the bags are useful to me). They gotta pay some kind of tax for my service
The US really needs a minimum wage. Without it this will never stop.
… But we do have one… It’s just very… Minimal.
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Any minimum wage should be pegged to a cost of living index.
This right here. It seems so simple in principle. But it’s also not doing that which is a major factor that let’s the rich get richer.
Remember kids, minimum wage=minimum effort. Never give more than that. You’re employer paying you minimum is literally telling you that if he was legally allowed to, he’d pay you less.
I think you really nailed something there… We don’t really have a minimum wage, we have a minimal wage.
A proper minimum wage should be pegged to the cost of living - it’s the minimum required to live. Instead, what we’ve got is companies paying the absolute least that they’re required to, and lobbying to keep that number as low as possible regardless of the cost of living.
And this is why it will never stop.
Let’s call it “livable minimum wage” or this discussion will never end.
Minimum wage limits need to be set by an NGO independent body. The UK uses a living wage criteria. My opinion that even the voluntary real living wage is set too low atm. This also does not take into account for the rent increases that are hitting kids due to interest rate rises. Even so, I still see this as a massive leap over the shambles that the US is. The current government is trying extremely hard to implement US limits in the UK.
Switzerland doesn’t have a minimum wage either, but the problems aren’t as dire (yet). Several cantons have however now introduced minimum wages and these are inflation adjusted, so a lot more future proof. Also they don’t need to be renegotiated again and again as the law doesn’t expire. I only see them disappear if we get a nationwide solution that replaces the local ones. But I agree with you: They are now set by the legislature and arbitrary and they should be informed with NGO data.
I find it much nicer to use the self checkouts cause I have no issues with telling a machine to fuck off with their donations or tips. I get guilted a bit by the human cashiers and end up tipping or donating, with a machine I instantly hit no.
Unless you’re personally waiting on my table, delivering food to my door, or driving me somewhere, the answer is no.
I’m usually okay with tipping if I have the bread. But donating to some kids hospital or something I always say no. Makes me sound evil but there have been too many scandals with companies not giving the money away
Even if it isn’t an obvious shady thing with the money not getting donated, even if it’s all “above board” as these things go, when you make a donation at a retail checkout counter the store then donates the money in their own corporate name and gets the tax breaks, good press, and so forth.
I prefer to make my donations directly to charities rather than subsidizing some middleman company’s good karma.
the store then donates the money in their own corporate name and gets the tax breaks, good press, and so forth.
Oh, hell I’d never thought of this but it makes perfect sense. I already didn’t donate via checkout, but now I never will. Fuck that.
I’ll drink to that
Unfortunately, same
Asking for a tip? Just tip the machine over!
mind = blown
We need a tip for using the checkout
This is like when fast food places ask if you want to round your order up to the next dollar to donate to x cause.
Like, no, Taco Bell, I don’t want to pay you so you can turn around and get credit (both in terms of laundering their image, and for tax purposes) for my donation.
I was at a fast food place a few days ago and the drive tru employee asked me if I wanted to round up. I asked him for what and he didn’t know. Just wanted to round up to the nearest dollar for the fuck of it I guess. Shit is already too expensive without corporations asking for a handout.
Taco bell doesn’t get a tax credit. I don’t know about the charity they donate too, but most fast food charities are actually pretty good uses of money and $.50 makes your accounting easier while works out to millions to a good cause. For sure check what charity they give the money too first, but in general this is an easy way to make a difference.
Just like CVS did though, it’s a good way for companies to offload their legal obligations to their customers too.
CVS used the donations for legally binding obligation. If you want to donate, donate yourself. Money donated here is wasted.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/06/metro/heres-why-cvs-was-sued-over-fundraising-fraud-checkout/
Any money you donate to a grocery store or business just ends up benefiting the business, not you.
Asking for tips is always an insult.
That means you get a discount, right? Right?
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Hadn’t considered that! I meant if you are doing the work, why aren’t you the one getting the tip?
I would interpret this to mean this established company is underpaying staff to maximize profits. My tips, at best, would mitigate that cruelty by a tiny bit, assuming management isn’t stealing the tips.
It means this business needs to fail, and its workers need to unionize.
Dear owners of these machines. Just because you automate some of your positions doesn’t mean you can also subsidize the wages of the employees you still have to pay. Just pay your employees and shut the fuck up. I will never tip a kiosk. Or anyone that does nothing but hand me a bottle of water. You can emotionally make me feel guilty saying “they depend on those wages”. What I am saying is an employer should not depend on me directly paying their employees for them. Pay your bills Mr. Business owner. If you love the free market so much, if none of us tip those workers they will find another job to survive. Making the owner have to pay more to remain operational. Don’t manipulate me into keeping your business sustainable.
let’s hope it trains people to respond “NO” to such nonsense.
anyone asking for a tip is a fucking insult
it ruins the value of the tip, if I want to tip you is because you did an absolutely fantastic job, not because you can’t afford living with your normal (if we can call it like this) wage
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries and I ask you for a tip!!!
