• swope
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    I think ebike, scooter, etc. usage will increase even more if we mod infrastructure to be safer for everyone.

    • @[email protected]
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      This is the kicker. They are a pretty good solution now, but they could be amazing.

      At least in my country they need to hammer out a consistent set of rules and laws regarding their use. Last time I checked the vast majority of them are effectively illegal because under current laws they are too powerful to be considered an assisted pushbike, you cant register them as a roadgoing vehicle because they dont have indicators and brake lights and you cant ride them on the footpath because riding on the footpath is against the law.

      Which puts them in that lovely legal space of “Does a cop want to fuck with me today?” Fortunately our police tend to be pretty cool on the subject because they know that technically taking it out of your house is illegal which is dumb.

    • Uranium3006
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      67 months ago

      we need to infiltrate civil engineering standards boards and make protected bike lanes mandatory for all roads with 4 or more car lanes or speed limits over 25 mph. then they’ll be the default everywhere because going against code will invite lawsuits

    • @doingthestuff
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      Yeah they aren’t even allowed on the roads where I live so I never see them except on the Internet.

  • queermunist she/her
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    Fuck yes ebikes!

    Not only do they slash oil demand, but manufacturing and maintaining an ebike has a fraction of the environmental impact of an electric car. Also, you can do a lot of the maintenance yourself with cheap tools and a small amount of work space. Also also, makes my ass look good~🍑

    • @[email protected]OP
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      Also, unironically, e-bikes are more fun than cars. You feel the acceleration much more on a bike than a car despite moving slower, and the breeze going by you feels pretty nice too.

      Not to mention a lot less likely to kill someone.

      • @[email protected]
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        67 months ago

        I remember the first time I went about 30 mph on my conventional bike down a hill. I had so much fun, I went up the short hill again!

        I’m graduating soon and plan to reward myself with something pricey. An e-bike is a strong contender because I hate driving my car as much as I do.

  • FlashMobOfOne
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    This fact is why, as much as random scooters being everywhere may annoy me, I see the value in having them around.

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      My biggest issue with scooters is that the sidewalks on most streets in North America are way too narrow to safely use them while others are walking, and we’re seriously lacking in dedicated bike lanes. Both of which are issues with the prioritization of car infrastructure over all else as opposed to problems with scooters themselves. Since scooters cannot safely run on the road but is still too fast for exclusively pedestrian paths. Where there are dedicated bike lanes in my city, scooters share them with bikes perfectly fine.

      • @[email protected]
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        37 months ago

        I feel like most roads where you’d ride a scooter the cars would be less of a problem if they followed the speed limit. Scooters should be able to go down 45mph roads just fine but there’s always some massive truck going 60.

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          Yeah, unfortunately speed limits don’t mean anything and studies show that drivers pretty much always drive as fast as they think they can regardless. The issue is that North America has stroads which are highly conducive to driving fast, damn near highway speeds. If we had the narrow, potentially tile or even cobblestone local streets that European and Asian cities have it would be less of a problem because those conditions directly promote lower speeds and more attentive driving.

          • @[email protected]
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            27 months ago

            I’ve heart NotJustBikes say similar things. I normally don’t favor control over everything but at this point I would be ok with cars having electronically controlled speed limiters to not exceed the speed limit of whatever road they’re on.

            It’s really just created such an entitled, careless, and demanding mindset where bikes need to have speed limiters on them for safety but Fred can buy a 1200hp 3 ton weapon with no limiter.

              • @[email protected]
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                I’m perfectly fine with there being interstates that go 85mph I just don’t want people driving so fast in dense areas with mixed traffic. If I could have people just not be assholes that would be great but I feel like driving the speed limit now is just reason for someone to get angry with you and want to drive you off the road.

                I’d love to ride a bike everywhere I can but every road I would be riding would have traffic going over 45mph with massive vehicles who have drivers so impatient they’d rather run you off the road than share the road.

            • @[email protected]
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              17 months ago

              Or just build roads and bike spaces with safe separation.

              If you tighten roads people natively drive slower

    • Uranium3006
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      the dockless rent-a-scooters need to go. privately owned escooters? great. dock based systems? also great. escooters littered all over the street? nah

      • FlashMobOfOne
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        I don’t like them either but when Atlanta banned them pollution and traffic became significantly worse. They serve a purpose.

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        the dockless rent-a-scooters need to go

        Yeah, I get it. Private vehicles everywhere on the side of the street are an eyesore and take a ton of valuable public space. If at least e-scooters were as small as a car it wouldn’t be such a big deal to see them parked everywhere.

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          27 months ago

          They’re also stupid dangerous to use and provide almost no protection if a car finds you, or you hit something the wrong way and go flying.

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  • @[email protected]
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    57 months ago

    I have an ebike, and I really want an electric scooter/bike once the range can be improved, currently they couldn’t get me to and from work (it’s a long commute)

  • FartsWithAnAccent
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    Stop on by [email protected] if you’re interested in ebikes, scooters, bicycles, skateboards, or whatever personal transport might interest you.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    27 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    But it’s more than that—they are actually displacing four times as much demand for oil as all the world’s electric cars at present, due to their staggering uptake in China and other nations where mopeds are a common form of transport.

    Their batteries make them heavier than a traditional car and draw heavily on the extraction of rare earth elements.

    Smaller electric options like scooters and skateboards also offer a way to overcome the last kilometer problem that plagues public transport systems.

    A study of e-scooter riders in the United Kingdom found these trips produced up to 45 percent less carbon dioxide than alternatives.

    Global oil demand is now projected to peak in 2028 at 105.7 million barrels per day—and then begin to fall, according to the International Energy Agency.

    If you live in an outer suburb or regional towns, you may find the longer range and larger capacity of an electric car is better suited.


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