The list of components i’ve compiled is as follows:

-A corsair 4000D airflow case -Ryzen 5 3600 (might be a slight bottleneck, but i have a 3900X, which is basically the same but double the cores and it barely gets any load during gaming) -BeQuiet Pure Rock 2 cooler -Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8gb 3600mhz -BeQuiet System Power 9 CM 600W -ASUS Prime B550-M A -3060 TI, manufacturer doesn’t really matter -2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSD (haven’t decided on a manufacturer yet, but likely to be crucial, corsair or WD)

for context, she’s going to be using a 1440p 144hz monitor and she’s planning to play games like Warzone or some of the newer CoD games

i have built multiple PCs roughly in this region of performance before, and they’ve run great so far.

appreciate any suggestions!

    • @[email protected]
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      11 days ago

      What issues can come from buying a cheaper PSU?

      It’s just gotta supply power and that’s it, innit? The PSU seems like a great place to shave some bucks off the total cost

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
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        1111 days ago

        All it has to do is supply power. But when it goes bad it can go BAD.

        Best case scenario it just stops working. Worst case is an actual fire. If you’re pushing the limits of the PSU (transient spike count too) can cause it to fail In smaller ways (low voltage that cause odd hard to trace behavior) or for the power supply to shut off for “no reason”.

        I think gamers nexus did the video on the gigabyte PSU that would explode every time they pushed its limits in a specific way.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 days ago

          That makes sense! I usually give myself some power “headroom” when picking a PSU in case I upgrade to more demanding parts in the future, but I also never alter the voltage limits on a build. I know that’s more important with overclocking and such, so that might be a very useful concern for users who are planning on doing that.

      • Hello_there
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        411 days ago

        The more expensive PSU are rated on terms of efficiency. Meaning more electricity goes to your components and less to heat. A cheaper PSU means higher heats (therefore less performance of CPU/gpu), higher fan noise, and higher operating costs.

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          Are those operating costs substantial over the lifetime of the product? Or are the effects of the heat efficiency?

          While more efficient products are technically better, I’m skeptical the differences are significant enough to splurge on a better PSU. At least if budget it a concern, it seems like a safe place to trim a little fat.

          • Hello_there
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            411 days ago

            Depends on how long you are going to keep that PSU and how much power you’re working with, and the climate you’re in.
            More to my point: It gets fucking hot in my room in summer with the comp running, even in a mild climate, and I don’t want the computer shooting out 5% more heat and making it more uncomfortable

      • @BradleyUffner
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        210 days ago

        A bad power supply can get every other component in the system. You don’t have to go top end, but a reputable mid tier is highly recommended.

      • @[email protected]
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        211 days ago

        I’ve always wondered this… I run a cheap PSU that came with my rig and I’ve never had issues with it

        • @soloner
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          My logic would be it’s a component you shouldn’t need to upgrade. Whereas the motherboard and everything attached + hard drive can all be updated as better components are made.

          So since it’s one of the few “lifetime” components, might as well get a nice one that lasts.

        • Dran
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          The theory is cheap PSUs don’t always have the same guardrails against surging during a failure, or external power event. You don’t want your power supply to take your motherboard/CPU/GPU with it when it dies.

    • KptnAutismusOP
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      111 days ago

      i oversized it slightly for this build. and another chinesium power supply i own has been running flawlessly for 10 years. the power surge protection thing doesn’t really concern me. the network in my country is extremely stable.

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    I’d buy a cheaper case and get a 5600 instead. I wouldn’t go lower than that in this day and age, except for an absolute budget build. And I’d consider Radeon 6700XT which scores better than the 3060 in a lot of benchmarks and can often be had for less.

    • KptnAutismusOP
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      my brother runs a 3600 in his PC with a similar card, and he gets phenomenal performance for what he spent on it. plus i explained in another thread that the price increase from the newer one isn’t really worth it to us and that we can always upgrade, since it’s AM4.

      from my research, the 6700xt a 50€ price increase for minimal performance increase in some specific cases. since she’s likely going to play raytracing enabled games in the future, i’m just gonna stick with the 3060ti.

      • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
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        211 days ago

        At this point in time it doesn’t make any sense to upgrade inside of AM4. Either get the better CPU now, or jump to AM5 or something newer.

        Unless you can find a used 5800x3d for sub $100 in a year or so I wouldn’t bother. You’re going to end up spending more money to baby step than if you’d just bought something better from the get go.

        • KptnAutismusOP
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          i will keep that in mind. although i imagine am5 equipment requiring ddr5 and overall being more expensive.

          • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
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            211 days ago

            DDR5 prices have tanked recently. AM5 prices will hopefully drop soon, but I think the days of a really good $100 motherboard are over.

  • @Anamnesis
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    If you can afford it, the 5800x3d is a huge upgrade over both the 3600 and the 3900x. I had also thought that the lack of load during gaming meant I didn’t need to upgrade my 3900x, but it turns out you get a lot of lag in unoptimized games when the CPU runs out of L3 cache and has to talk to the RAM. And this is more common than a lot of us realized. I noticed 25 fps increases in Hell Let Loose just with that upgrade, for example.

    • KptnAutismusOP
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      yeah, we looked at getting a 5600 for this build, but it’s like 50 bucks more for like 5-10 FPS. plus my brother runs a 3600 in his rig and says there’s no problems. getting last gen hardware is always a bit sketchy, but she’s always able to just buy any AM4 socket cpu a few years into the future. thanks for the recommendation though.

  • @[email protected]
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    211 days ago

    Double check that the case has enough room for the AIO cooler in the position you want to place it. You can usually find out by checking the manual, companies like Corsair and Fractal Design make a point of mentioning the distances between, say, the top fan mounts and the RAM slots on the motherboard. I ran into an issue with my current build where the RAM I bought is slightly too high and I can’t fit the radiator where I wanted it with the fans attached.

    That said, I put the AIO cooler in the front instead of the top and it runs just fine, even if it’s not as thermally efficient. But it would have saved me some time and frustration during the build to have planned better.

    • KptnAutismusOP
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      this is going to be a regular air cooled system unless i spelled the name of the cooler wrong. thanks for the concern though. vengeance lpx is a very low profile kind of RAM. i never had any issues with an even bigger Beqiet cooler. gonna check the clearance between glass and cooler though.

      • @[email protected]
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        Duhhh whoops, I shoulda read a little slower.

        I have one of BeQuiet!'s AIO coolers, hence my warning. Far less likely of an issue with an air cooled system, though I did once run into an issue with a massive cooler knocking against the optical drive cage in an older build (back when optical drives were necessary and GPUs connected via the AGP slot).