The random weapon rolls this season are looking a lot spicier than the crafted weapons. Thought I would list some of the standout rolls I saw on light.gg. Again I’m not listing perks I don’t think are worthwhile or guns that have returned and not changed.

Dreaming City Refreshed Weapons

These can be acquired from Blind Well (yuck) or from Riven’s Lair and The Coil.

Origin Trait: Advanced Reflexes - ADS quickly after taking damage to gain improved mobility, handling, and charge rate for a short duration.

Tigerspite - Kinetic Precision AR:

  • First Column PVE:
    • Overflow
    • Subsistence
    • Outlaw
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Kinetic Tremors
    • Attrition Orbs
    • Frenzy
  • First Column PVP:
    • Moving Target
    • Outlaw
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Eye of the Storm
    • Kill Clip
  • Tigerspite was a really solid AR when it released. ARs are really hot in PVP right now and this has some good perks for that.
  • This is one of two ARs in the game with Kinetic Tremors right now. The other has a huge perk pool. We’ll get to that one.

Sleepless - Arc Rocket Launcher:

  • Go focus a Hothead from Zavala if you don’t have one. It’s perk pool is so much better.

Twilight Oath - Solar Rapid Fire Sniper:

  • I don’t think this gun has a place in the game.
    • Legendary snipers are bad at DPS and Rapid Fire snipers don’t hit hard enough. They’re basically big Scout Rifles.
    • If you’re going to use a solar sniper in PVP you should be using Beloved.
    • If you don’t have Beloved use Cloudstrike.
    • Eye of Sol and Uzume are both back this season.

Retold Tale - Void Precision Pellet Shotgun:

  • First Column PVE:
    • Repulsor Brace
    • Lead from Gold
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Destabilizing Rounds
    • 1-2 Punch
  • First Column PVP:
    • Quickdraw
    • Slideshot
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Killing Wind
    • 1-2 Punch
    • Barrel Constrictor?
  • Good PVE combos if you don’t have Nessa’s Oblation or just want something different.
  • Precision Frames are very hot in PVP right now and with Matador being pretty rare this is a good sub. Wish it had threat detector but I can live.

Waking Vigil - Arc 140 HC (another one):

  • First Column PVE:
    • Outlaw
    • Rapid Hit
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Voltshot
    • Kill Clip
  • First Column PVP:
    • Outlaw
    • Rapid Hit
    • Rangefinder
    • Perpetual Motion
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Kill Clip
    • Opening Shot
  • PVE rolls are pretty obvious.
  • This could be a good PVP HC with the origin trait depending on how big the stat boost is.
  • If you don’t have a Nation of Beasts this is a good alternative. I think they both have their pros and cons in both perks and stats. Nation is craftable though so it’s easier to get the roll you want.

Vouchsafe - Void Lightweight Scout:

  • First Column PVE:
    • Rapid Hit
    • Repulsor Brace
    • Outlaw
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Destabilizing Rounds
    • Dragonfly
    • Golden Tricorn
    • Attrition Orbs
  • First Column PVP:
    • Moving Target
    • Rapid Hit
    • Outlaw
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Explosive Payload
  • This is probably a better PVP option that Brya’s love, which came out last season.
  • As for PVE they’re about the same but I’d spend time going for Byra’s because it’s craftable.

Abide the Return - Solar Sword:

  • It’s a sword. It has Incandescent.
  • Keep it if you don’t feel like getting craftable the sword from the war table. Or if you’re not a Titan w/ Crown Splitter.
  • If you’re a Titan without the Solar Crown Splitter I feel bad for you.

Ritual Playlist Weapons

🚨BREAKNECK🚨 - Precision Frame AR - Source: Gambit (yuck):

  • First Column PVE:
    • Subsistence
    • Feeding Frenzy
    • Heating Up
  • Second Column:
    • Onslaught (kills increase fire rate)
    • Kinetic Tremors
  • First Column PVP:
    • Eye of the Storm
    • Heating Up
    • Encore
    • Keep Away
    • Dynamic Sway Reduction
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Moving Target
    • Tap the Trigger
    • Kinetic Tremors
  • The GOAT returns.
  • It’s a damn shame this is locked behind Gambit and can’t get Rampage/Onslaught again. Probably for the best.
  • For the unaware this was one of the guns that brought about Sunsetting.
  • I see basically two options for PVE and many options for PVP. Good luck to you getting the roll you want because this is one of the huge perk pool guns.

Belisarius-D Strand 4 burst Pulse Rifle - Source: Competitive PVP:

  • First Column PVE:
    • Vorpal
    • Keep Away
    • Rapid Hit
    • Slice
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Kill Clip
    • Hatchling
  • First Column PVP:
    • Vorpal
    • Keep Away
    • Rapid Hit
    • Eye of the Storm
    • Elemental Capacitor
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Zen Moment
    • Moving Target
    • Headseeker
    • Kill Clip
  • IMO this is the best gun that released this season. It’s a great weapon frame and has an insanely good perk pool that can cross PVE+PVP.
  • Rapid Hit/Kill Clip is a universal combo that works at all levels of content and in any game mode.
  • Vorpal in the first column is super interesting. I can’t recall any other guns that have this.

Retrofuturist - Lightweight Void Shotgun - Source: Crucible:

  • Personally I don’t think this one is worth your time.
  • Lightweights are not meta at the moment and while this gun has perk combos the pool is too large to guarantee success.
  • I think you’re better off going for Retold Tale since it’s pool is smaller and the frame is currently better.
  • We’ll always be able to focus this one later on if it becomes meta again.

Double Edged Answer - Void Sword - Source: Strikes:

  • Get the seasonal ritual sword instead. Both have Repulsor Brace/Destabilizing Rounds.

Lethal Abundance - Strand High Impact AR - Source: Iron Banner:

  • First Column PVE:
    • Slice
    • Keep Away
    • Enlightened Action
  • Second Column PVE:
    • Hatchling
    • Onslaught
    • Attrition Orbs
    • Target Lock
  • First Column PVP:
    • Keep Away
    • Dynamic Sway Reduction
    • Elemental Capacitor
  • Second Column PVP:
    • Tap the Trigger
    • Target Lock
  • This gun has to compete with possibly the best PVE primary in the game: Quicksilver Storm. I think it does an okay job.
  • The other alternative to this gun is Perpetualis, which you can still get from the War Table and is craftable.
  • I think this gun will shine more in PVP. It makes me want to play more IB at least.

Incisor - Strand Trace Rifle - First of it’s kind - Source: Trials:

  • First Column:
    • Subsistence
    • Envious Assassin
    • Slice
  • Second Column:
    • Killing Tally
    • Attrition Orbs
    • Hatchling
    • Target Lock
  • I only really look at Trace Rifles for PVE content. This one is the first legendary strand trace so that makes it unique.
  • Kind of annoyed its a Trials reward.
  • It has some possible PVP rolls but I don’t think trace’s will ever be meta after Laser Tag weekend.

Undercurrent - Arc Waveframe Breach GL - Source: NIghtfalls:

  • Personally, I think this gun is DOA since Forbearance exists and Undercurrent can’t get Chain Reaction.
  • Forbearance has almost all the good perks this gun has too.
  • Even with a reload perk+ voltshot I don’t think it can clear adds as fast as Forbearance can. Also, if you want a GL with Voltshot you can craft one from the War Table. (can’t remember the name)

World Drops

Parabellum - Solar Adaptive SMG:

  • Only combo I’m really interested in here would be Heal Clip/Frenzy
  • Adaptive SMGs are outshined by lightweights in PVP if you ask me.
  • CALUS Mini-tool also exists and is probably better than this.
  • If you don’t have the mini tool look for this one I guess.

Marcato-45 - Strand Adaptive MG:

  • First Column:
    • Slice
    • Attrition Orbs
    • Demolitionist
  • Second Column:
    • Hatchling
    • Onslaught
    • Golden Tricorn
  • Not seeing a lot of PVP viability for this one.
  • Circular Logic is also out there if you feel like grinding on Neomuna and might have a better perk pool depending on what you want.

Crux Termination IV - Arc Rocket Launcher:

  • First Column:
    • Envious Assassin
    • Reconstruction
    • Clown Cartridge
  • Second Column:
    • Explosive Light
    • Tracking Module
  • I think the only other rocket that can roll Envious/Explosive Light is the one from Ghosts of the Deep so keep an eye out for this one.
  • Very solid DPS options on this gun. Probably will chase it in lost sectors next season if we don’t get something that can craft these combos.

Ros Argo IV - Void Adaptive Auto

  • First Column:
    • Subsistence
    • Rewind Rounds
    • Permeability
  • Second Column:
    • Onslaught
    • Attrition Orbs
    • Golden Tricorn
    • Surrounded
  • This is the heir to Gnawing Hunger and Chroma Rush. Both were add shredding machines.
  • Not really seeing a lot of PVP viability on this one.
  • Shame it doesn’t have Destabilizing Rounds for the combo.

TL;DR

Good:

  • Competitive Crucible pulse looks nasty.
  • Trials has a strand trace.
  • World Drop RL and AR are looking good.
  • New IB AR looks solid.
  • Breakneck is back baby.
  • Dreaming City weapons look solid if you can land a roll.

Bad:

  • Dreaming City guns might require Blind Well. Blind well is also dropping the old Dreaming City Armor.
  • Best PVE guns are still dropping from PVP activities.
  • New Vanguard Waveframe is DOA.
  • No way to focus this season’s World Drops (again).
  • @goldenbough
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    211 months ago

    Just a small point: Mountain Top / Recluse was what prompted sunsetting. Breakneck had already been long nerfed by that time.

    • @jontree255OPM
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      211 months ago

      Yeah those were part of it too. Luke Smith specifically pointed out this gun in their justification for Sunsetting. It was really all of those pinnacle weapons that were basically exotics but not exotics that had no competition whatsoever.