You wrote “liberals” but then gave a textbook description of conservatives.
In Aus the Liberals are the conservative party…
The Democrats (“liberals”) are also a conservative party in the US; they’re just not the most conservative party.
Not just Aus.
Bernie visited the Netherlands recently and I believe one of the takes was that US liberals are pretty much center-right with a few figures like him self being more center-left.
In context of that, there’s nothing inherently wrong with this meme.
US liberals are constantly appealing for us to compromise with fascist conservatives. This seems pretty accurate to me.
No. We fucking aren’t.
Biden didn’t build more concentration camps? He didn’t continue the wall? He didn’t send his VP on a gaslighting mission to Latin America? He didn’t interfere with the railroad strike? I imagined all that?
I could have sworn it was US liberals telling me he “hAd No ChOiCe” and that don’t I know he has to do these things to win elections because if he doesn’t then the [checks notes] well … [nervously tugs shirt collar] lesser of two evils or something hmmm
But you said “no we fucking don’t,” so I guess it must’ve been the wind…
Ok, link me to the concentration camps. I can find nothing about that other than him keeping WW2 sites open for historical purposes.
Are you being serious? One of the first things he did after taking office in 2021 was to open more concentration camps at the border. Every US liberal I encountered downplayed this categorically fascist act. US liberals even claimed Biden “had no other choice” and some even went so far as to claim this was a good thing.
As someone who’s had friends and family who’ve experienced the inhumane conditions in these camps, I’m not so easily fooled.
This is but one of a long list of examples of US Democrats enabling fascism and human rights violations, sometimes in the name of compromise, often for the mustache-twirlingly evil goal of protecting a capitalist economy at all costs.
Democrats are not a leftist party. They’re not even leftist-adjacent.
He didn’t interfere with the railroad strike?
You mean like getting them what they asked for? Or are you the type of person that doesn’t actually follow the news or care about anyone else expect your own sense of superiority.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave
Now do the concentration camps and other straight up fascist policies he’s upheld
Edit: Also, your article shows that he did interfere with a labor strike. Looks like he’s the one who has the superiority complex, not me. I’ve never trampled on workers’ rights.
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I really expected this to be from hexb for this kind of brain rot
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Wow. I wouldn’t have expected so much downvoting for this meme.
Folks in this thread know this is left-of-liberal critique of liberals, right?
Folks in this thread know this is left-of-liberal critique of liberals, right?
Yes, we do. We just think it’s totally wrong
We know, it’s just not original, funny or true
There’s only Democrats or GOP! Nothing else! If you’re not a Dem, you’re against us! /s
And my karma on this comment is positive? I’m so confused right now.
Pro tip: Join an instance that disables downvotes. I thought I’d miss seeing downvotes, but I don’t at all. It feels so much more pleasant to browse without them.
Pro-tip, on kbin we have no upvotes/downvotes. Only favorites and reduces.
“Karma” was a concept that was easily manipulated and abused on other, closed, platforms.Lemmy.one observes no downvote system whatsoever, only upvotes. Downvotes don’t even federate from other instances, so everything is more or less upvoted or remains at 1. I love it.
Still not a fan of upvotes, again its something that’s easily manipulated.
I enjoy the no upvotes/downvotes. Boost is where its at.Having no downvotes makes it easy to ignore upvotes as well. Plus, no cumulative karma is nice. Unlike reddit, I don’t really notice or care if I get upvotes or not.
Why yes, a lot of us aware of the far left attempting to gaslight left of centres into agreeing with them. Quite a common occurrence actually.
…what? What are you fucking on about?
Liberals oppose fascism on its face and fascism leads directly to the seizure of capital.
Do the idiots who make these memes not have dictionaries?
Pretty sure they’re mostly teenage trolls.
I hope you’re talking about Australian politics.
don’t worry OP, I get you.
Liberal as in classical liberal? Ehh, by definition they like civil liberties so probably not. Liberal as in Democrat? Absurd. They literally have the DSA in the party. Words mean things.
I’m not from the US and it has been funny to see everybody call everybody else liberal. To this very say I still have no clue what which group means when they call someone liberal, yet it seems never to be a good thing.
Liberal in common American usage refers to the political left in general. Technically it means an ideology that promotes democracy, free markets, individual liberties, civil rights and social programs. People often use this term when they mean social liberalism.
However, people on the right in the US use it as a pejorative and generally use it as a term to, “other,” with and associate with what they consider the more negative aspects of the left in general. The irony is that until recently the US right themselves practiced classical liberalism, though they are now dabbling in christofascism.
Just look at this Liberal at the DNC salute Hitler. Wait a second, it’s of a Republican at the RNC, my mistake!
Just a sex offender selling his best flag combo pack. Standard business.
These guys vote Republican every time, I guarantee it!
It seems like you may have missed the point here.
It’s not saying that Republicans don’t also support fascism. It doesn’t need to because that’s something they do in public. You don’t need to post quite confronting pictures proving something that everyone already knows.
It’s saying that liberals will side with fascism if they think the only other option available is socialism, because by and large their interests align with the capital owning class.
They may not openly side with facists like Republicans do now, but the second that the interests of capital are truly threatened, liberals will be right next to their maga brothers.
The Austrian flag with a swastika on a square ground? What the frick?
Marxist leninists need to stop with this schtick. It unhelpful and it’s not historically. I mean you can say it’s a proponent but you also have to accept it’s also it’s biggest opponent as well. Liberalism is what defeated fascism 9/10 times.
Edit: i guess it depends on how you define liberalism
Just going to leave these here (not that those who need to read it will):
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
A tactical, strategic fact bombing by DessertStorms. We’re not worthy. But, much like the expiration of Kissinger, we welcome this happenstance.
I’ve not read these, but I’m bookmarking them for later. Thanks.
Thank you. The meme isn’t wrong, they just don’t like the truth.
Yup, and their reaction is a perfect demonstration of why the meme is right - their own comfort and ego are more important to them than fighting fascism is.
Oh please. You people are nothing but comfort ego. You’re so privileged that it doesn’t matter to you who places what conservatives on the supreme court because you’re not the ones having your rights stripped. So go on, talk about comfort to the women who now can’t get abortions because of your egotism.
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While I agree that Hilary/Biden democrats are clearly as fascist as modern Republicans, they have made it clear they are not liberals and have disavowed the liberal masses.
They are progressives.
Liberals aren’t fascist. And they are also poor af.
