• @[email protected]
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    1311 months ago

    False advertisement isn’t a right. Imagine a company saying a snack is peanut free but it contains a bit anyway because they have the right to lie about the product.

  • @[email protected]
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    11 months ago

    If being a corporation protects the people that own and operate it because it isn’t an individual but a conglomerate, then rights issued to the US individual should not apply to corporations – or cake eaters, whatever we’re calling them.

    Although, if I’m wrong they should be charged 37% income tax on anything they make above $700k under the Tesla name.

    • @givesomefucks
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      311 months ago

      Yeah, but you’re thinking logically…

      That’s not how our system came about.

      Giant corporations realized every member of one party and the vast majority of the other will (for an astonishly low price) pass counterintuitive legislation so that those corporations get all the positives of being a person with none of the negatives.

      We won’t even have a chance at fixing it unless we flip the entire democratic party from moderates to progressives.

      And then we still have to fight Republicans over it.

      But that will never happen if we support anyone with a D by their name no matter what, and even shout down anyone that points it out.

      It’s a long road, but we’ll never finish if we never start walking.

      • @SkyezOpen
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        011 months ago

        But that will never happen if we support anyone with a D by their name no matter what

        And it’ll also never happen if Republicans keep getting power and eroding democracy. Dems should have learned from 2016 but they didn’t and never will. Our best bet is to stave off fascism until the ancient fucks die and more young progressives get into office.

        The other alternative is let fascists win and Kickstart a civil war or something.

        • @givesomefucks
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          011 months ago

          And it’ll also never happen if Republicans keep getting power and eroding democracy

          Well, the only reason that happens is moderates keep promising they’ll fix stuff if elected, then sit around and dont even fix the stuff the last republican broke.

          That depresses turnout in the next election, and depressed turnout is how Republicans win.

          But Biden in his 80s, and still going to run again. And lots of other moderates are “just” in their 60s with no plans to retire soon.

          If we try to let them just naturally die off, we’ve got decades of this shit left. And what we’re currently doing isnt going to work that long.

          Hell, we’ve been waiting for them to die off since they told FDR he had to wait for his next term to make social security universal healthcare.

          That was about 80 years ago.

          We can’t afford to keep waiting for decades to actively fight fascism.

  • @SinningStromgald
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    211 months ago

    At this point I just want a list of what Musker doesn’t think violates the First Amendment.

  • @SkyezOpen
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    211 months ago

    I mean, I guess it depends on what qualifies as an autonomous vehicle. Can they drive themselves? Yes. Will they blow stop signs and brake to a stop on the highway? Also yes.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    111 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Tesla is trying to use a free speech argument to defeat a complaint that it falsely advertised “Autopilot” as an autonomous vehicle system.

    In response to the California Department of Motor Vehicles allegation about Autopilot, Tesla claims the state laws cited by the DMV violate the US Constitution’s First Amendment.

    Tesla’s response, which was filed last week and published yesterday in a story by The Register, says that several California statutes and regulations cited by the DMV “are unconstitutional under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article I, Section 2, of the California Constitution, as they impermissibly restrict Tesla’s truthful and nonmisleading speech about its vehicles and their features.”

    Despite Tesla’s free speech claim, the US and state governments can enforce laws banning deceptive practices that harm consumers.

    “Beyond the category of common-law fraud, the Supreme Court has also said that false or misleading commercial speech may be prohibited,” a Congressional Research Service report last year stated.

    The California DMV’s 2022 complaint, alleging deceptive practices that violate state law, said that Tesla "made or disseminated statements that are untrue or misleading, and not based on facts, in advertising vehicles as equipped, or potentially equipped, with advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) features…


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