- cross-posted to:
- libertarianism
- cross-posted to:
- libertarianism
What a bunch of fucking bullshit, STOP. SPYING. ON. YOUR. OWN. CITIZENS. CUNT. BAGS.
It is completely unequivocally a violation of the god damn 4th ammendment. We do not need 1984 fucking big brother breathing down our necks all the time.
It’s really weird to say, but I agree with Rand Paul on this issue. Found our 1% common ground.
I have no idea what Rand Paul said about this, and if he isn’t agreeing with me on this one, then he’s wrong.
Edit: Holy shit, he tried to stop the reauthorization of the bill. I can’t believe we are on the same side with this issue.
Makes sense to me. You care about the 4th Amendment right to be secure from unreasonable searches and he cares about keeping all his secret communicatin with his Russian handlers secure from incidental discovery during an unreasonable search.
I mean, maybe. But you can aways catch people using traditional surveillance methods to catch shit like that. There is no need to add backdoor spy devices and APIs into every electronic device that is connected to the internet. It’s fucking unnecessary and way extremely over the top big brother, and could lead to some really shit suppression of opposing viewpoints. Just wait until a smart authoritarian person goes and fills trumps shoes, then we’ll really be in trouble.
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This is explicitly surveillance of foreign entities. The “backdoor” described is that your communications with foreign entities can be collected because the entire comm is collected.
You can disapprove of this program (I do, for other reasons), but it is not “1984”-style surveillance.
Yeah, it kinda is, whether you think so or not. Any spying that involves warrantless collection of citizens data is a 1984 style surveillance program, nevermind that there are literally NSA programs to do this very thing to spy directly on all citizens just cuz, what if they’re terrorists or something?
The whole apparatus is disgusting, and I’m surprised to see people defending it in any sense at all.
Don’t confuse “this isn’t literally 1984” with defense of the program
Thank goodness you’re here to tell us how the restraint that three-letter agencies are known for is alive and well!
Unfortunately, it now falls on individuals to protect your online privacy. Get a VPN, make sure the websites you visit are encrypted, and even with all of that, I won’t put into text anything incriminating. My wife calls me paranoid (and she’s probably right), but there’s no such thing as being too secure these days.
You never know who’s looking at your online activities and what kind of motivations they may have to find something incriminating. And it’s not just the now you have to worry about, but forever into the future because lots of private data is being warehoused for future analysis.
Now imagine the worst case scenario of our government during your lifetime, do you want that government to have a ton of records about all your life online and offline?
And it’s not just the now you have to worry about, but forever into the future because lots of private data is being warehoused for future analysis.
That no doubt includes some encrypted data being preserved against some future date when it can be cracked.
This had always been true.
Boooooooooooooo!
If you sacrifice liberty for security, you will lose both.
“All government is against liberty.” - H. L. Mencken
So what type of spying is this? If I use Linux am I still susceptible?
The government can tap foreign communications without a warrant, so if you’re speaking to someone they’ve tapped, they will potentially have access to that communication