• @xantoxis
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    2410 months ago

    Pretty sure this has always been the case. Giving up a piece of information like a password has always been considered self-incrimination and therefore is a violation of your rights.

    This is why you should get rid of face unlock, body unlock, fingerprint unlock etc. on your phone and just use a passcode. The police can compel you to unlock your phone using those other methods, because those aren’t information locked in your head.

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      Most Android phones usually allow you to require pin re-entry by clicking an open lock or a “Lockdown” button in shutdown menu. It seems for iOS it’s Power + Volume Up/Down but I can’t confirm this.

      • @xantoxis
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        310 months ago

        This is good info, but if you’re putting yourself in a situation where you might get rounded up by cops (a protest, for example) you should not rely on being able to get to your phone quick enough to hit that.

        • @Crashumbc
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          510 months ago

          While I agree, if you’re going to a situation like a protest, you should be using a burner phone anyway. And be expecting it to be seized.

          • @xantoxis
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            210 months ago

            Agree with this. Your burner phone still should be hard to unlock though, since it has contact info for your co-conspirators.

    • @[email protected]
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      10 months ago

      For finger print though what if you just use the wrong finger until it locks itself?

      • @xantoxis
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        310 months ago

        Might work. It’s taking a gamble, though, and putting your phone in PIN mode is easy and can be done way in advance. I’ve been using a PIN unlock on my phone since I joined the protests in 2020.

  • @[email protected]
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    1010 months ago

    Since this relates to laws, it should be noted that this is related to the US, and that other countries may treat the issue completely differently.

    • @sic_1
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      310 months ago

      It’s like this with seized devices in Germany, too. The result is they keep it until you give up the PW.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        Fine, keep it.

        Me 30min later: “Hi yes I lost my phone and I need to replace it, do you sell unlocked google pixels at this store?”

        • @sic_1
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          110 months ago

          Yup, if you have the money to replace it that’s fine but you’ll still have lost most of the data on your phone.