• @FooBarrington
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    6 months ago

    How about you stop licking Sony’s boots and accept that it’s not a viable solution to tell people “the only way to consume this media is for you to be in constant danger of being banned”?

    They can remove your access to the game. That is unacceptable from a consumer rights perspective.

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      06 months ago

      Not licking anybody’s boots here, just trying to point out that the issue wasn’t as bad as people love to make it out to be. Go make a psn account in another region. See if Sony actually cares.

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        26 months ago

        What if earnings don’t go up enough next quarter, and they see this as an opportunity to make more money? What if they expand PSN coverage and start enforcing their ToS then? You’re giving people advice that will likely result in them losing access to their purchases in the future. That’s bootlicking to me.

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          06 months ago

          Who said anything about earnings? What are you on about?

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            26 months ago

            Sony is a public company. Companies exist to make money. If Sony thinks they can get more money by banning ToS-breaking PSN accounts (since people would have to buy games again to play them), they’ll do so.

            Why do you think companies exist?

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              It would take a special kind of stupid to think a customer would come back to buying from you if you did something like that, but sure. If your hypothetical situation were actually possible, a corporation would probably do it.

              Besides, aren’t we talking about PC players who aren’t even buying from Sony?

              • @FooBarrington
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                16 months ago

                It would take a special kind of stupid to think a customer would come back to buying from you if you did something like that, but sure. If your hypothetical situation were actually possible, a corporation would probably do it.

                Please explain to me how this situation is not possible. You’ve been obviously wrong before without looking things up, so I’d love an actual explanation beyond “nu-uh”. It takes a special kind of stupid to think that children who want to play their favorite games wouldn’t re-buy them if access were taken away, especially if it was “their fault” for “breaking ToS”.

                Besides, aren’t we talking about PC players who aren’t even buying from Sony?

                You’re absolutely right - the publisher of a game has zero income from any purchases. How could I be so stupid to forget that all publishers are doing their work for the good of the people, they would NEVER take a single cent from any purchase. Sony happens to be the publisher of the games we’re talking about, but THEY WOULD NEVER.

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                  Customer buys a bunch of games from the PS Store using a foreign account. Now let’s say your hypothetical plays through and Sony for some stupid reason decides to care where the customer actually lives, bans them, and removes access to their games. What does the customer do? Make a new account and buy more games from PS? Nope. They go buy from Steam.

                  You’re absolutely right - the publisher of a game has zero income from any purchases.

                  Right… So anyway, I’m talking about where you buy a game from, not who makes it. On PC, your PSN account itself isn’t tied to your purchases, just PS services like trophy and friends lists, right? Exclusively PC players don’t actually have much to care about there, right? On PC, if your psn account gets removed, what’s stopping you from just making a new one?

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                    16 months ago

                    Customer buys a bunch of games from the PS Store using a foreign account.

                    No, customer buys a bunch of games from Steam, and links their Steam account to a foreign PSN account. Sony bans them, and the player can’t play their Playstation games on Steam games online anymore.

                    Right… So anyway, I’m talking about where you buy a game from, not who makes it. On PC, your PSN account itself isn’t tied to your purchases, just PS services like trophy and friends lists, right? Exclusively PC players don’t actually have much to care about there, right? On PC, if your psn account gets removed, what’s stopping you from just making a new one?

                    Sony. Their whole argument for introducing the PSN requirement to Helldivers was the ability to ban hackers and the like. This wouldn’t make any sense if you could just switch the PSN account. They can ban your purchase, even when you bought it on Steam. That’s the whole point.