I have a pretty broad music taste, I have rock, classical, pop, eurodance, opera, bitpop, industrial, metal, ballads and more on my phone, except rap or hiphop.
There is just something in me that as soon as I hear either it just sounds like shit.
I like it because I can equate it to poetry. You have to be one talented motherfucker to come up with some of those rhymes, and to be still able to put it along to a rhythm and beat, sometimes incredibly fast (Busta Rhymes, George Watsky).
ETA: I also have a soft spot for three particular white Jewish boys from NYC
I’ve been thinking about something similar (as someone who isn’t a fan of rap/hip-hop). No matter how much I don’t like it (the actual music behind it is too bland for me), it has the greatest potential to deliver deep lyrics with puns and other wordplay.
But then it got me thinking:
What the HELL is holding us back from improving the other genres’ lyrics, or actually slapping some decent music on top of rap/hip-hop music, and not just some bland base or short and repetitive catchy tune?
There’s a lot of rap and hip-hop that isn’t just running along to a bassy beat. Busta Rhymes doesn’t rap to a beat, and he comes up with some clever lines. I’ve heard that Childish Gambino is one of the most clever writers right now, with some lines in Bonfires and Sweatpants being pretty damn hard.
I really like A Tribe Called Quest as well, because they have a more jazzy sound than most. I REALLY like Digable Planets though because they’re like the ultimate fusion of funk, jazz, and hip-hop.
For more unconventional hip-hop, try Flobots. Handlebars is the only song that got radio play and it’s alright, but most of the rest of that album is better. Mayday is my favourite song by them
Rock had excellent lyrics in the 60’s and 70’s, but lyrical poetry kind of fell off a bit after that era. In the 90’s a lot of bands were experimenting with mixing rap, rock, rasta, and other genres together. Some of it works really well, and some of it doesn’t, but it’s all pretty unique music. Eminem did an excellent job of mixing rock and pop with rap, and he has a lot of success to show for it. So, we’ve seen a lot of experimentation and progress over the decades, but we don’t see much of that any more, at least not from major labels. They figured out a decade and a half ago that there’s a very algorithmic approach to selling lots of music, and they’d rather continually follow that formula than take a risk on originality. So now most of the music coming from major labels are songs that are written by studio song writers, following a specific formula proven to sell albums, and the artist is secondary. They’ll find someone with a good stage presence, that looks good, teach them to dance, and hand them a stack of songs to perform under heavy auto-tune. Most of the popular music I’ve heard in the last 10 years is devoid of soul.
I tried to, but I just coulnd’t stand the rythm or the rapper’s voice.
Sorry but the genere just isn’t for me.
The one song that might classify as rap/hiphop that I do enjoy is https://youtu.be/KD59LJX2r38 though is has a lot of pop in it, the video is quite cool, and I would be lying if I said that I would not like to have a fur baseball cap.
It helps if there’s a transcript to read along with it. Zack De La Rocha from Rage Against The Machine has a verse at the end of that song that hits really hard, because he’s a great lyricist.
There’s a line in El-P’s verse where he says “hand on my heart and my mind on my drugs, got a Vonne-gut punch for your Atlas Shrugged,” and the whole song is about modern ultra capitalism and our state of society at large.
You shouldn’t generalize, a lot of the stuff that gets played a lot is not indicative of the whole genre. There is some rap that makes me cover my ears, and there is some rap that makes me feel enlightened. Hip hop it just depends on the song, since there is so much variety.
That’s true, I was just hoping to maybe convince you to try out something that maybe you don’t know is wonderful yet. I’ve had that experience with music before, and I think it helped me to understand why people like things
Billy Joel is the only thing I recognize on your list. I guess we have very different musical tastes. I like pretty much every genre of music, but I gravitate towards rock and metal.
On the rare occasions I’m scanning through FM radio stations, the reason I hit the Next button the fastest when I find myself “listening” to a hip-hop station? The hi hat. tss ts ts ts ts ts tss ts tssssss. It’s most of what you hear, everything else is mixed down in the mud beneath it. I’m informed this is an…artistic choice?
Rap and Hiphop are just shit music.
I have a pretty broad music taste, I have rock, classical, pop, eurodance, opera, bitpop, industrial, metal, ballads and more on my phone, except rap or hiphop.
There is just something in me that as soon as I hear either it just sounds like shit.
I like it because I can equate it to poetry. You have to be one talented motherfucker to come up with some of those rhymes, and to be still able to put it along to a rhythm and beat, sometimes incredibly fast (Busta Rhymes, George Watsky).
ETA: I also have a soft spot for three particular white Jewish boys from NYC
I’ve been thinking about something similar (as someone who isn’t a fan of rap/hip-hop). No matter how much I don’t like it (the actual music behind it is too bland for me), it has the greatest potential to deliver deep lyrics with puns and other wordplay.
But then it got me thinking: What the HELL is holding us back from improving the other genres’ lyrics, or actually slapping some decent music on top of rap/hip-hop music, and not just some bland base or short and repetitive catchy tune?
There’s a lot of rap and hip-hop that isn’t just running along to a bassy beat. Busta Rhymes doesn’t rap to a beat, and he comes up with some clever lines. I’ve heard that Childish Gambino is one of the most clever writers right now, with some lines in Bonfires and Sweatpants being pretty damn hard.
I really like A Tribe Called Quest as well, because they have a more jazzy sound than most. I REALLY like Digable Planets though because they’re like the ultimate fusion of funk, jazz, and hip-hop.
I may check some out, thanks for the examples!
For more unconventional hip-hop, try Flobots. Handlebars is the only song that got radio play and it’s alright, but most of the rest of that album is better. Mayday is my favourite song by them
Rock had excellent lyrics in the 60’s and 70’s, but lyrical poetry kind of fell off a bit after that era. In the 90’s a lot of bands were experimenting with mixing rap, rock, rasta, and other genres together. Some of it works really well, and some of it doesn’t, but it’s all pretty unique music. Eminem did an excellent job of mixing rock and pop with rap, and he has a lot of success to show for it. So, we’ve seen a lot of experimentation and progress over the decades, but we don’t see much of that any more, at least not from major labels. They figured out a decade and a half ago that there’s a very algorithmic approach to selling lots of music, and they’d rather continually follow that formula than take a risk on originality. So now most of the music coming from major labels are songs that are written by studio song writers, following a specific formula proven to sell albums, and the artist is secondary. They’ll find someone with a good stage presence, that looks good, teach them to dance, and hand them a stack of songs to perform under heavy auto-tune. Most of the popular music I’ve heard in the last 10 years is devoid of soul.
Also, I implore you to listen to JU$T by Run The Jewels and really listen to the lyrics.
I tried to, but I just coulnd’t stand the rythm or the rapper’s voice.
Sorry but the genere just isn’t for me.
The one song that might classify as rap/hiphop that I do enjoy is https://youtu.be/KD59LJX2r38 though is has a lot of pop in it, the video is quite cool, and I would be lying if I said that I would not like to have a fur baseball cap.
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It helps if there’s a transcript to read along with it. Zack De La Rocha from Rage Against The Machine has a verse at the end of that song that hits really hard, because he’s a great lyricist.
There’s a line in El-P’s verse where he says “hand on my heart and my mind on my drugs, got a Vonne-gut punch for your Atlas Shrugged,” and the whole song is about modern ultra capitalism and our state of society at large.
You shouldn’t generalize, a lot of the stuff that gets played a lot is not indicative of the whole genre. There is some rap that makes me cover my ears, and there is some rap that makes me feel enlightened. Hip hop it just depends on the song, since there is so much variety.
I mean, OP litterarly asked us about what our most unpopular opinion about music is, this is mine.
I would never impose this view on others, they are free to like what they like.
That’s true, I was just hoping to maybe convince you to try out something that maybe you don’t know is wonderful yet. I’ve had that experience with music before, and I think it helped me to understand why people like things
I have had it happen several times with music, lastly with Opera and Classical music.
This doesn’t get you moving and feeling good?
It would get me moving, away from the source of the music, which would make me happy.
It is just not music for me.
Here are some songs from my 25 most played songs on my phone, in no particular order:
Gary Moore - Over The Hills And Far Away
Welle: Erdball - Der Türspion
Slade - Myzterious Mizster Jones
Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Murder On The Dancefloor
Sweet - Popa Joe
Queen - Hammer to Fall
His Bushlanders & Slim Dusty - The Sequel To Pub With No Beer
Billy Joel - We Didn’t Start The Fire
Laibach - Tanz Mit Laibach
Billy Joel is the only thing I recognize on your list. I guess we have very different musical tastes. I like pretty much every genre of music, but I gravitate towards rock and metal.
Wait, you don’t even recognize Queen?
I do, but I’m not familiar with that particular song.
On the rare occasions I’m scanning through FM radio stations, the reason I hit the Next button the fastest when I find myself “listening” to a hip-hop station? The hi hat. tss ts ts ts ts ts tss ts tssssss. It’s most of what you hear, everything else is mixed down in the mud beneath it. I’m informed this is an…artistic choice?