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The Biden administration has told key lawmakers it is sending a new package of more than $1 billion in arms and ammunition to Israel, three congressional aides said Tuesday.
It’s the first arms shipment to Israel to be announced by the administration since it put another arms transfer — consisting of 3,500 bombs — on hold this month. The administration has said it paused that earlier transfer to keep Israel from using the bombs in its growing offensive in the crowded southern Gaza city of Rafah.
We are on the wrong side of history and we never seem to learn from it. We should stop all US money to a genocidal government who is doing … guess fucking what … committing genocide.
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U got it
Why should we believe that a more equitable voting system would solve this issue? Or any similar issues?
To be sure, ranked choice voting would result in some improvements to the United States, and should be supported on that basis. But it would do nothing to modify the current structure wherein oligarchs rule the United States with impunity. It’s just that this would empower the neoliberal Democratic oligarchs rather than the fascist Republican oligarchs. Which is harm reduction and is therefore preferable, but is not a meaningful solution - especially to something as entrenched as Zionism
We would have to dismantle capitalism entirely and a huge cultural shift to fix that. Huge spending caps on campaigns would be a good start.
RCV allows people to vote for candidates of a third party without wasting a vote like they would now. The problem is that much of society is brainwashed with red vs. blue politics and it would take a long time for everybody to get on the same page about a third party candidate.
I agree.
And, again, RCV and campaign finance reform would certainly be an improvement.
But the root issue would remain untouched. And eventually, the ruling class would find ways to grossly manipulate that system to their own ends as well - or would gradually chip away at it through the judiciary that they control
These proposals should be adopted nevertheless. But we should be clear-eyed about what they will and will not accomplish
Because the electoral and voting systems in the US are, respectively, intentionally undemocratic and extremely inconsistent depending on the state.
RCV for national elections would materially address the former, and enforcing RCV as the system to use for all elections at all levels would materially address the latter.
I am not claiming RCV (or any other similar/related system) would be a panacea, but it would be a damn sight better than the intentionally flawed shitshow we have to use now.
STAR voting is so much better than RCV. RCV is only marginally better than first past the post.
is it just RCV with 5 rankings, or you rank every candidate?
You can rank every candidate, so you can give multiple people 5’s. If you can’t decide between them. In RCV, if 51% vote #1 for candidate A, 49% vote #1 for candidate B, but 100% vote #2 for candidate C, the winner is still candidate A even though everyone voted for C. Everyone would’ve been a little satisfied. In STAR, if everyone put 4’s for C, they would win.
Most people would still give A and B 5’s or 4’s, so C still loses even if they get all 4’s, no?
You total all of the points. So say 100 people with the 51/49 doing A/B at 5, and all 100 do C at 4. A would have 255 points, B would have 245 points, and C would have 400. C wins by a landslide.
Ah right assuming A and B are opposing candidates. Kind of a way to eliminate the most popular opposing candidates in a runoff assuming there is a middle of the road candidate that everybody likes.
In RCV this might be translated differently tho. Maybe 26% vote C #1, 49% A #1, 25% B #1 with C #2, then in runoff, C would win.
I don’t see everybody liking the same candidate for #2.
It’s more of an example how a more popular candidate can lose because RCV still depends on first past the post and isn’t that much better. It’s not translated by points. Everyone gets #1 first. If anyone has 51%, they win and we’re done. If no one has 51%, then we eliminate the least popular candidate, transferring the votes. This continues until one is at 51%. RCV is a bandaid.
Check out this CGP Grey video about RCV: https://youtu.be/3Y3jE3B8HsE
Nonsense! We will write that history so that we’re clearly the good guys!
Unless you’re saying it’s possible we’ve not always been the good guys but surely that’s not it.
Which is why so many people simply cannot put their name in support of Biden and AIPAC democrats.
There’s pragmatic politics and then there’s supporting actual genocide. For many people that line is something they just won’t ever compromise on because it’s so unequivocally immoral, there’s no justification to actively support it.
Personally if he doesn’t reverse course there’s no way I’m voting for this. I’ve lived through one Trump presidency, I’ll do it again if I have to and find other ways to resist.
If Democrats can’t do better than genocide they can’t demand my vote.
What a completely foolish take. “I won’t vote for Biden, I’ll just vote for the guy who wants to be a dictator and who cares even less about Palestine”
Russian troll or a completely deluded and/or privileged person who “lived through one Trump presidency”.
I can’t begin to stress how completely, off the rails, crayon eating levels of stupidity this approach is.
Who said I was voting for Trump?
Biden can easily get my vote, there’s literally only one thing he has to do; stop supporting genocide. It’s not rocket science. Don’t like the idea of him losing? Then you need to be doing everything in your power to communicate to him that he needs to do a 180 on this issue. People aren’t going to vote for him because you try to badger and shame them, didn’t work in 2016, won’t work now.
Sadly with how the US general election works, if your not voting for Biden, it just helps Trump. You know his supporters don’t care about Israel, the Middle East, women, LGBT people, etc., so they’re not holding back.
If Trump wins, none of your rhetoric will excuse where we end up, and yes Biden and the current lobbying groups so entrenched with Israel have their share of the blame, but absolutely so do the voters who let it happen.
Not a genocide. It’s war.
No. It is a genocide.
Even Netanyahu admitted it was analagous to the genocide of the Amakelites in the Torah fairy tale.
There is no debate here, it is a genocide and you are a supporter.
What and vote for brain worms or fascists?
No, who said that? Voting uncommitted is a valid third option when Democrats don’t give you someone you can morally vote for.
Well, so far as the decision makers are concerned, the lesson is that we always win. It’s just unfortunate that what’s important doesn’t matter to them and they do not represent us.