• @hperrin
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    Ah yes, the historically marginalized vulnerable community, the cisgenders. How can a community even hope to live in peace with only 98.5% of the population?

    • @[email protected]
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      As one of the most average dudes in the world, I can’t help but feel threatened and marginalized, which of course means that the gay agenda is to blame for everthing that has gone wrong in my life.

      Just to be on the safe side: That was sarcasm.

      My gender: You can safely make assumptions based on appearance.
      Orientation: Straight and boringly sprinkle-free
      Favorite dinosaur: Triceratops
      Opinion on this: Fuck Elon. Let people be people, for fucks sake. If he feels threatened by increasing specificity in language, he must have some real identity issues boiling underneath.

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        I don’t think Elon feels personally threatened. I think he feels hate and a misguided sense of heroism. If you listen to him speak enough, it becomes painfully obvious that he not only thinks he’s the most important person in the world, he also thinks he’s the smartest person in the world. Basically he thinks he can’t possibly be wrong, no matter how many experts who’ve dedicated their lives to the pursuit of knowledge in a field that’s new to him disagree with him.

        That, plus the constant stream of right wing propaganda from his Twitter addiction, has convinced him that the acceptance of trans people will lead to the destruction of society. His brain is rotten to the core at this point. So he’s made it his personal mission to make trans people’s lives worse.

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          My refined interpretation: He’s desperate to be liked, and as long as his Xitter-circle cheers him on, he’ll continue to be a Xithead shithead. He doesn’t have a circle of friends to keep him grounded in reality.

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        bullshit. cis- is a latin prefix that means “on this side of”. So for example, the Roman region Cisalpine Gaul could reasonably be interpreted as “the part of Gaul that’s on our side of the Alpines”. The prefix trans- is the antonym meaning “on the far side”. Transalpine Gaul was the part of the Roman empire on the other side of the Alpines. When related to gender, the only way cisgender can be read in any context is “their gender aligns with their sex”. There is no way that could ever be reasonably be interpreted as a slur.

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          696 months ago

          Those kids on Tumblr, infamous for their coining of slurs, knowledge of Latin and history of Rome in equal measure.

          • @captainlezbian
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            Ok but you did describe a specific chunk of rome nerds. You’ve really got three kinds of rome nerds: the “I just think it’s neat” folks, the ones who think of it as glorious western tradition and lean fascist (it’s how they turned the symbol of Roman right to rule into the “kill everyone in the name of tradition” ideology), and then there are those of us who see a society that’s full on clown shoes where a bisexual twink managed to talk his way into destroying a republic among many many many other fucking bonkers things that just kept fucking happening while this empire refused to trade with China because of dipshit toxic masculinity. So yeah us in the last group lean anti fascist because rome was a shit show of a caliber only America and Russia can compare to

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            76 months ago

            OMG I love it!

            Right wing assholes get all bent out of shape over the computer world trying to do away with “master” and “slave” terminology, but they’ll rush to “cancel” using “cis” because it hurts their feefees…

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          People can be insulted (read as feel insulted) by anything and everything. If I refer to someone by a technically correct term all the time, but it was not customary to do so, they could easily (and justifiably) feel insulted by that. Whether something can be more or less generally be said to be a slur depends more on majorities, convention, and social protocol than on technical correctness. Neither you nor I are in a position to tell someone that they cannot feel insulted by something. And it might even be a communal thing: if a majority of users on X felt insulted by being referred to as cisgender, it would be correct to label it as a slur in that context/on X. Like cunt is an integral part of everyday language in Australia but a big no-no in the US. Think about that, you dry-nose primate.

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            Most people don’t see cisgender as a slur. Only complete asshole transphobes do.

            Honestly, not even they do. They just lie about it as a gotcha.

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              From wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

              The term cisgender was coined in 1994 as an antonym to transgender, and entered into dictionaries starting in 2015 as a result of changes in social discourse about gender.[4][5] The term has been and continues to be controversial and subject to critique.

              I think there’s some confirmation bias on your end here. The local community (including me) tends to be young and liberal and knows the term cisgender. I’d bet that the majority (by a huge margin) of English speakers (including as a second or third language) has never even heard the term cisgender or doesn’t know what it means. Lots of them will react negatively if you label them cisgender out of pure ignorance and false assumptions - no transphobia needed.

              Only complete asshole transphobes do. Honestly, not even they do. They just lie about it as a gotcha.

              Sure, they exist. But what’s their percentage of the population or the X user base? I think you’re making a false generalization by an invalid extrapolation.

              And just to be clear: I’m not saying cisgender is a slur. I’m just pointing out that the notion that community A or an individual can decide whether some word is a slur or not in community B is ridiculous, and that the argument, from the first comment I replied to, for technical correctness or intended meaning of a word is irrelevant for who considers what a slur.

              I hope that made my point clearer to your dry-nosed primate’s brain.

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                306 months ago

                Most people don’t hear a new word and immediately assume it’s a slur.

                Most people without an ax to grind anyway.

              • @[email protected]
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                I’m just pointing out that the notion that community A or an individual can decide whether some word is a slur or not in community B is ridiculous,

                As a member of group B I consider the word community a slur (purely because it is convenient for my argument to do so). Never use that word again because it is a slur and it would be ridiculous for you to say otherwise.

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                I’m pretty confident the slur-status of a word is closely rated to whether or not it is used in a hateful way to refer to a people group or member of a group that is in some way disadvantaged. For example the n-word is obviously a slur and “cracker” or “whitey” obviously are not. That’s why cisgender isn’t a slur, even if people can and have use(d) it in a hateful way.

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        726 months ago

        When you have a trans-something you have cis-something. It’s how language works.

        The only way for cisgender to be a slur is if you consider transgender a slur too.

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            Ok let me rephrase for pedantic people, adjectives with trans prefix have a correspondent cis adjective.

            And an electrical cisformer would be something that would keep energy inside the same circuit at roughly the same voltage, so basically a wire. Feel free to use the term if you want to oversell something.

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              Cisformers
              They’re what meets the eyes
              Cisformers
              Bots not in disguise
              Robobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of
              The Obviouscons

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              I will start using “cisformer” in place of “wire” from now on, in a similar manner to how we at work sometimes refer to “power aspect negation cycle” for pulling the plug on something and reconnect it.

              Also, I guess a cisistor would be just a regular switch or potentiometer.

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              “…and here’s where I keep assorted lengths of cisformers!”

          • @hperrin
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            A cisformer would just be a conductor (like a wire). It takes a current/voltage on one side, and gives you the same current/voltage on the other side.

            Now if we’re talking about the big robots that turn into cars, a cisformer would be a car that turns into the same car (so just any car).

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          You could construct a cis- form of the word, but it’s not always going to be useful, or even sensible.

          Cismit? Cisaction? Cislate? Cisportation?

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            Cismit - communicating with one self, for e.g. inner dialog

            Cisaction - an agreement with one self or within a group

            Cislate - to rephrase in the same language

            Cisportation - moving inside a boundary

            • @captainlezbian
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              I kinda love all of these. Especially cislate, I have to do that one so often

              • @samus12345
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                Or to cislate your last statement, “I am required to do that one frequently.”

        • @PrinceWith999Enemies
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          Well, damn.

          The word is a threat because it linguistically separates biological sex from socially constructed categories of “woman” and “man.” That gender is a social construction undermines heteronormativity, critical to defending patriarchal sex roles and procreation.

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        176 months ago

        People on tumblr being really mad when they say cisgender doesn’t actually make it a slur ¯\_(ツ)_/¯