• @[email protected]
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    236 months ago

    Telegram is as safe as just using Facebook DMs (unencrypted), only it’s Russian.

    I suggest you judge for yourself how safe that is.

    • @JubilantJaguar
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      56 months ago

      Even if it were encrypted and the backdoor was controlled by the Russian state, logically that would make it safer than Facebook for anyone living in Western jurisdictions. The Russian government cannot get them and is hardly going to exchanging intelligence with its enemies.

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Even if it were encrypted

        It’s not.

        logically that would make it safer than Facebook for anyone living in Western jurisdictions. The Russian government cannot get them and is hardly going to exchanging intelligence

        No it wouldn’t. You shouldn’t opine on what they’d do. They can negotiate, you know. And they are exchanging intelligence all the time.

        with its enemies.

        If that were true, corporations wouldn’t work with their competitors.

        • @JubilantJaguar
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          36 months ago

          You shouldn’t opine

          To “opine” is to have an opinion. Are you suggesting I should refrain from having an opinion? Does this apply to your own opinions too? Odd place to make such an argument.

          Otherwise: interesting point. To me, a state that can obtain personal data by leaning on its owns corporations is, by definition, more threatening than one that has to negotiate for it with a hostile power. But perhaps I underestimate the scale of that practice.

          • @[email protected]
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            36 months ago

            On what they would and wouldn’t do - yes, I try not to make opinions.

            But perhaps I underestimate the scale of that practice.

            Considering that the balance of power between US government and, say, Meta is not much different from the same between it and Russian government (Meta doesn’t have a military, but has ways to compensate for that), that should be right.

      • @okamiueru
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        26 months ago

        To what extent is it Russian?