• @CoggyMcFee
    link
    English
    2028 days ago

    Some people can’t picture an item in their head, or can barely do so and wouldn’t be able to flip it.

    • @Dasus
      link
      English
      628 days ago

      Yeah complete aphantasia is crazy.

      The point is that no-one does that sort of thinking with language, as it’s not really applicable.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        728 days ago

        I was really confused when you said picture an object then flip it. When people say picture something I always assumed that was a way to say think about the thing. I guess because I can think about things, obviously, but I can’t picture them. Their wouldn’t be a thing for me to flip if someone asked me to picture an object which left me wondering, wtf do you mean flip it.

        • @mrcleanup
          link
          English
          228 days ago

          Picture a teapot. Picture it turning over so you can see the other side. Sort of like that.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            228 days ago

            I guess my point is that I can’t picture something in that way. Picturing a green apple vs a red apple. I don’t actually visualize anything. I can think ok it’s a sour apple or sweet apple but I don’t have a visual to modify. The teapot I would just be thinking ok the teapot is upside down, theirs nothing I can visualize that would change. I have tried really hard, especially when I miss loved ones, I wish I could bring about images of them in my mind really badly.

            • @Today
              link
              English
              228 days ago

              I feel that on the faces. It’s really upsetting.

            • @mrcleanup
              link
              English
              128 days ago

              Faces are hard for me too, but not impossible. It’s like AI. It’s easy to get a “teapot” but it takes more work and focus to get a specific individual.

          • @Today
            link
            English
            128 days ago

            Nope. Don’t have that skill.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            1
            edit-2
            28 days ago

            guess the upside of it is is that if you see something traumatic you can’t revisualize it?

            some things can’t be unseen doesn’t apply for everyone? must be nice

            • @mrcleanup
              link
              English
              028 days ago

              Maybe. One way to process trauma is to re-visit it until it becomes more familiar and less of an extreme experience. Seeing it in your mind may make it more real, but it also means you can just picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.

              • @Dasus
                link
                English
                127 days ago

                Seeing it in your mind may make it more real, but it also means you can just picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.

                Thaaaaat’s not how trauma works. If you could just distract yourself, the trauma wouldn’t be nearly as much of an issue.

                The problem is being forced to relive a horrible memory despite your will or not.

                • @mrcleanup
                  link
                  English
                  027 days ago

                  I love how we are all here talking about how we all think and perceive differently and you decided it was important to tell me that the way I process trauma isn’t real. You can go ahead and fuck right off.

                  • @Dasus
                    link
                    English
                    1
                    edit-2
                    27 days ago

                    Nice reply man, super polite. You process trauma in whatever way best suits you, but… You’re making the claim that is essentially “if you’re bothered by traumatic memories, you can just stop thinking about them” which is reductive and simplistic as fuck, and above all very much objectively wrong.

                    People who are bothered by images from traumatic memories can’t just choose to “picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.” That’s. Not. How. Trauma. Works.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        228 days ago

        i can imagine textures and tastes and stuff and geometry relatively complex but when i try to imagine colors all i get is a flat color diagram or an empty room with only one colour

      • KillingTimeItself
        link
        fedilink
        English
        228 days ago

        it’s wack, shits even weirder when you dream.

        My dreams often get retconned into the real world, unless my brain immediately determines them to be bullshit. Which is uh, unsettling.