Do any of them know what the word “liberal” actually means?

  • @Cryophilia
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    06 months ago

    I’m a progressive, not that the distinction matters to you. You see everyone right of Lenin as a conservative.

    • Cowbee [he/him]
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      16 months ago

      Nah, you’re directly concerned with attacking leftists and redefining words. Any anti-leftist can be considered a reactionary, but that word might not make sense to you.

      • @Cryophilia
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        -16 months ago

        Being anti-leftist =/= being reactionary

        I understand we define them differently, but do you fundamentally disagree with the spectrum of “Leftist (revolutionary) – Progressive – Conservative – Reactionary” ?

        • Cowbee [he/him]
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          16 months ago

          Yes, I fundamentally disagree with that.

          Rejecting Socialism and the progression towards Worker Ownership is Reactionary behavior. You identify as a progressive, but you oppose all Socialism, and support Liberal Capitalism with robust social safety nets (unless you’ve pivoted).

          You are therefore a reactionary.

          • @Cryophilia
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            -16 months ago

            How would you distinguish between Manchin Democrats, McCain Republicans, and MAGAs? I would call the former two “conservative” and the latter “reactionary”, but if you consider all of them to be reactionary, what labels would you use to differentiate them?

            • Cowbee [he/him]
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              16 months ago

              They are indeed all reactionary, though I would use Liberal and Fascist. All 3 are conservative liberals, and all 3 reject leftist movement, but MAGA in particular is a fascist movement.

              • @Cryophilia
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                -16 months ago

                Ok that makes sense. So Elizabeth Warren vs Joe Biden vs Joe Manchin? Any differences there?

                • Cowbee [he/him]
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                  16 months ago

                  Minor. All 3 are liberals and all 3 are reactionary. Getting into the weeds for specifics won’t really change their overall labels.

                  They all support “current system + minor tweaks,” and the “current system” part does heavier lifting than “minor tweaks.”

                  • @Cryophilia
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                    -16 months ago

                    Is there anyone who is neither a leftist nor a reactionary? Or do you think everyone has to be either for worker ownership (leftist) or against it (reactionary)?