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  • @givesomefucks
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    -24 months ago

    ME claimed acupuncture

    Chronic fatigue?

    Acupuncture does have legit neurological benefits tho…

    A good chunk of benefits would be placebo, but we don’t really understand chronic fatigue to begin with. And acupuncture does have an effect on local nerves, the nervous system, and our brain.

    That was just a weird abbreviation and weird you went on a rant about acupuncture…

    https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/acupuncture-what-you-need-to-know

    Like, it sounds like your mad people are getting relief from a condition we don’t understand, from a treatment we don’t understand…

    We just know it works above the rates of placebo and that it has a real effect on the nervous system.

    If that makes you angry, don’t read up on how anesthesia works, especially before you have to be out under

    • @mecfsOP
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      ME and chronic fatigue are far from the same.

      ME is a neuroimmune disease with recovery rates in the 5%, it does have the symptom of chronic fatigue though.

      Acupuncture can help revlieve stress and actually had tangible benefits especially if the patient is suffering from parasympathetic underactivation. However, multiple randomised clinical trials have shown it to not have any lasting benefit for people with ME.

      I’m not sure why you said it sounds like I’m mad, I’m just pointing out flaws in subjective understanding of causality which lead some people to claim they recovered from the Lightning Process.

      • @givesomefucks
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        ME and chronic fatigue are far from the same.

        Not according to the internet, Wikipedia, or science…

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic_encephalomyelitis/chronic_fatigue_syndrome

        Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a serious long-term illness. People with ME/CFS experience a profound fatigue that does not go away with rest, sleep issues and problems with memory or concentration. They are able to do much less than before they became ill. Further common symptoms include dizziness, nausea and pain.[3] The hallmark symptom is a worsening of the illness hours to days after minor physical or mental activity. This “crash” can last hours to several months.[10]

        But I’m still guessing what your abbreviation means because you won’t just say it, and I’ve ran out of all patience with you.

        You should still clarify what the fuck you’re talking about tho in case someone with more patience than me wants to try to help you.

        Edit:

        I just realized your account name is mecfs…

        If they’re so different why did you combine them to make a username?

        At least that explains why you acting like this, it didn’t work for you so you think it can’t work for anyone.

        You need to believe more in science just like the people falling for the grift in your article

        • @mecfsOP
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          could you imagine that “chronic fatigue” and “chronic fatigue syndrome” are not the same?

          The wikipedia page you sent me literally says: “Not to be confused with chronic fatigue, a symptom experienced in many chronic illnesses”

          At the top in italics…

          Like chill man I never insulted you but you continue to insult me without checking things out.

          I personally study ME/CFS and Long Covid…