yes technically parrots can recognize, and recreate sounds, it’s not that they understand english, or words, or language. It’s that they’re capable of recreating vocal anomalies of human speech, pretty well. Likewise, i can also mimic someone else speaking in another language, or just individual words, but that doesn’t mean that i’m speaking the language.
You’re repeating the age-old myth of “parrots just parrot, they don’t actually understand anything they parrot”.
This is decidedly untrue, and there’s heaps of science behind that. A lot of which I have shown you. So that assertion is proved untrue, ie “wrong”.
ethics, is an english word. It comes from the english language.
This is also just plain wrong. It’s a Greek word that comes to English from Latin. So not an English word, actually. (See my first point about monolinguistic speakers often being a bit ethnocentric. Not your fault, one language is limiting in more ways than one.)
Parrots can indeed speak, but to what extent do they actually understand the language, or have grammar? That’s the video I linked in my very first reply.
You’re repeating the age-old myth of “parrots just parrot, they don’t actually understand anything they parrot”.
This is decidedly untrue, and there’s heaps of science behind that. A lot of which I have shown you. So that assertion is proved untrue, ie “wrong”.
show me someone conversing with a parrot in a legible manner and i will believe you. I also handed you a much better example to use anyway.
This is also just plain wrong. It’s a Greek word that comes to English from Latin.
most prominent languages are based on latin, and latin is literally dead. Also technically if we’re being pedantic here, like you are, it’s not from latin, because latin isn’t the premiere progenitor of all language. Latin itself is actually a massive hodge podge of other various lingual devices, as are most languages.
But judging by your level of intellectual prowess, english isn’t a real language, because it steals words and grammar from other languages, often in non sensical mannerisms, that are inconsistent with it’s own grammatical constructions. Which is ironically, a fair statement, because english is a fucking mess.
Maybe bilingual people just don’t have a very multinational view of the world when it comes to history, and how it tends to play out, i don’t know though, because i follow history from time to time.
(See my first point about monolinguistic speakers often being a bit ethnocentric. Not your fault, one language is limiting in more ways than one.)
again this is like me getting into an older american car, to go somewhere, because it’s a car that i like and i drive it, because it’s reliable, only for you to inform me that i’m actually pretentious for using an american car because “there are other countries that manufacture cars” you keep acting like the one fucking statement that i made in passing is the arbiter of truth, solely defining every logical facet of the world. It’s not that deep, i’m just expressing my thoughts in a rather terse manner to get my point across without typing three fucking pages of text on the etymological history of every fucking word i’m using for fear that someone thinks i only understand english, and don’t understand the totality of all history ever, because otherwise “i would look like a dumbass”
Parrots can indeed speak, but to what extent do they actually understand the language, or have grammar? That’s the video I linked in my very first reply.
this is also literally what i re-iterated. I didn’t watch the video or click on any links, because unless you’re going to present it to me in a genuine manner that isn’t just trying to patronize me, i don’t really give a fuck to be honest. Maybe if you had read what i had written, you would understand this.
Can animals grammar? – introduction to my animated series which goes deep in just what the capabilities are, because there is a lot of debate in the science world.
you know it’s funny that you mention this, because in the very first post that i made, i’m pretty sure i literally said “animals have methods of communication, it’s just not the same way that we do, I.E. english” or something along those lines. And i’m pretty fucking sure i reiterated that multiple times.
Thoguht you might be interested, but guess you’re more interested in “winning” a conversation than actually having one.
it’s kind of interesting, and i’d like to discuss it, but it’s also hard to discuss something when literally everything you say is disputed for the purposes of “uhm nah actually ur wrong, because here’s a technicality where it’s actually kind of sort of wrong, and you should feel bad because i’m better than you” but maybe you don’t intend it that way, in which case, that’s how it fucking reads.
Am i brazen? Yes, i feel i’m being equally as brazen as you are though.
Edit lol replied to myself accidentally. Meant to put this at the bottom end of the thread.
ok cool so we’re just shitposting now
You’re repeating the age-old myth of “parrots just parrot, they don’t actually understand anything they parrot”.
This is decidedly untrue, and there’s heaps of science behind that. A lot of which I have shown you. So that assertion is proved untrue, ie “wrong”.
This is also just plain wrong. It’s a Greek word that comes to English from Latin. So not an English word, actually. (See my first point about monolinguistic speakers often being a bit ethnocentric. Not your fault, one language is limiting in more ways than one.)
Parrots can indeed speak, but to what extent do they actually understand the language, or have grammar? That’s the video I linked in my very first reply.
This:
Can animals grammar? – introduction to my animated series which goes deep in just what the capabilities are, because there is a lot of debate in the science world.
Thoguht you might be interested, but guess you’re more interested in “winning” a conversation than actually having one.
Edit lol replied to myself accidentally. Meant to put this at the bottom end of the thread.
show me someone conversing with a parrot in a legible manner and i will believe you. I also handed you a much better example to use anyway.
most prominent languages are based on latin, and latin is literally dead. Also technically if we’re being pedantic here, like you are, it’s not from latin, because latin isn’t the premiere progenitor of all language. Latin itself is actually a massive hodge podge of other various lingual devices, as are most languages.
But judging by your level of intellectual prowess, english isn’t a real language, because it steals words and grammar from other languages, often in non sensical mannerisms, that are inconsistent with it’s own grammatical constructions. Which is ironically, a fair statement, because english is a fucking mess.
Maybe bilingual people just don’t have a very multinational view of the world when it comes to history, and how it tends to play out, i don’t know though, because i follow history from time to time.
again this is like me getting into an older american car, to go somewhere, because it’s a car that i like and i drive it, because it’s reliable, only for you to inform me that i’m actually pretentious for using an american car because “there are other countries that manufacture cars” you keep acting like the one fucking statement that i made in passing is the arbiter of truth, solely defining every logical facet of the world. It’s not that deep, i’m just expressing my thoughts in a rather terse manner to get my point across without typing three fucking pages of text on the etymological history of every fucking word i’m using for fear that someone thinks i only understand english, and don’t understand the totality of all history ever, because otherwise “i would look like a dumbass”
this is also literally what i re-iterated. I didn’t watch the video or click on any links, because unless you’re going to present it to me in a genuine manner that isn’t just trying to patronize me, i don’t really give a fuck to be honest. Maybe if you had read what i had written, you would understand this.
you know it’s funny that you mention this, because in the very first post that i made, i’m pretty sure i literally said “animals have methods of communication, it’s just not the same way that we do, I.E. english” or something along those lines. And i’m pretty fucking sure i reiterated that multiple times.
it’s kind of interesting, and i’d like to discuss it, but it’s also hard to discuss something when literally everything you say is disputed for the purposes of “uhm nah actually ur wrong, because here’s a technicality where it’s actually kind of sort of wrong, and you should feel bad because i’m better than you” but maybe you don’t intend it that way, in which case, that’s how it fucking reads.
Am i brazen? Yes, i feel i’m being equally as brazen as you are though.
officially a shitpost now lmao