• circuscritic
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    146 months ago

    The major problems isn’t Windows 11 usability, although those issues due exist. UI and workflow issues can typically get addressed, or mitigated, by 3rd party tools.

    The real concerns are the exponential increases in spyware, such as the AI recovery tool that records all user interactions, or the native advertising inside of the system itself e.g. Start Menu ads.

    If native AI data collection and advertising is baked into all nooks and crannies of the system, the ability of users to mitigate those threats becomes extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible to completely resolve.

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        6 months ago

        Even if you trust that one feature will actually be disabled, that was just one example.

        Do you really believe you can disable and remove all of the numerous data collection and spyware components that are baked into all aspects of the OS?

        I’m not saying no one should use Windows 11, but they should be honest with themselves about the trade-off they’re accepting.

        • FaceDeer
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          -36 months ago

          Even if you trust that one feature will actually be disabled, that was just one example.

          The other one mentioned was the start menu ads. Those can also be turned off with a simple toggle in the settings. Finding this was as simple as Googling “turn off windows start menu ads”, it was the top result.

          Do you really believe you can disable and remove all of the numerous data collection and spyware components that are baked into all aspects of the OS?

          Yes. Because Windows is used by a lot of big giant corporations that would sue the hell out of Microsoft if it wasn’t possible to disable those features.

          • @ricdeh
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            16 months ago

            First of all, there are specialised Enterprise distributions of M$ Windows. Furthermore, what ground would any company have to sue M$ on what the latter put in their own operating system?

            • FaceDeer
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              16 months ago

              I work for a big giant corporation and plenty of its computers don’t run Enterprise Windows.

              A lawsuit would come in the case that Microsoft was lying about whether you could disable those features. Microsoft has put toggles for them into the settings, if it turns out that those toggles don’t actually disable the things they claim to disable then that’s where Microsoft is going to face legal issues. Do you really think Microsoft cares enough about the tiny portion of their customer base that’s going to change the default settings that they would risk that sort of lawsuit to “spy” on them?

      • yeehaw
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        96 months ago

        Yes. Just like you can turn off a bunch of the windows 10 crap with registry keys and tools. Why. Why does a user need to go to such lengths to make their OS they paid for not soy on them and deliver them ads?

        “Oh it’s not that bad!” You’ll say. Ya. Windows 10 wasn’t THAT bad for it. Then came 11. Then 12 will come. Inch by inch it will turn to shit more and more, and that is the point.

        • FaceDeer
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          -26 months ago

          But this really isn’t a registry key or tool, though. Did you click my link? It’s a simple on/off toggle in the system settings menu. You just open the settings and click “off.” I don’t see how much simpler they could make it.

          • yeehaw
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            46 months ago

            You need to consider the bigger picture. Not this specific thing.

            • FaceDeer
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              06 months ago

              I haven’t had to edit the registry in as long as I can remember. Not just for this specific thing. What stuff are you talking about?

        • FaceDeer
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          -16 months ago

          I trust that Microsoft fears the lawsuits that would ensue if they were caught lying about it, and that they wouldn’t derive any significant benefit from lying about it. Why would they?