I didn’t accuse you of saying any of that. What you did say was that they lost their way prior to the 1950s, which would be a neat trick for an entity that didn’t exist until 1974.
Libertarianism goes back to the 19th century. Not the 1970s. The ideology etc lost it’s way post red scare. When actual libertarian groups and all leftist in general largely laid low. Groups effectively hollowed out, their corpse was reanimated with fash friendly right wing ideologues and ignorant young men. The party at large has ALWAYS been net negative.
The best way to find out if someone is a serious libertarian, is to find out if they’re a member of the libertarian party. If they are you should always doubt their claims. Another tell of false libertarians is that they constantly publicly identity as such.
I didn’t accuse you of saying any of that. What you did say was that they lost their way prior to the 1950s, which would be a neat trick for an entity that didn’t exist until 1974.
Libertarianism goes back to the 19th century. Not the 1970s. The ideology etc lost it’s way post red scare. When actual libertarian groups and all leftist in general largely laid low. Groups effectively hollowed out, their corpse was reanimated with fash friendly right wing ideologues and ignorant young men. The party at large has ALWAYS been net negative.
The best way to find out if someone is a serious libertarian, is to find out if they’re a member of the libertarian party. If they are you should always doubt their claims. Another tell of false libertarians is that they constantly publicly identity as such.