• @fishosEnglish
    -1•6 months ago

    “Hey bro! Here’s some 20 year old program! We should totally reinvent it today! It’s not like anyone has been working on this exact thing for the last 20 years!”. Wtf is with the younger generations obsession with “retro tech”?!? “Look bro, I can do the same thing we can do now, but slower and worse!”

    Also Matrix. If you’re gonna suggest something, maybe make sure it doesn’t already exist.

    • poVoq
      7•6 months ago

      "Look bro, I can do the same thing we can do now, but slower and worse!”

      Best description of Matrix (in relation to XMPP) I read in a while 😎

      • @fishosEnglish
        2•6 months ago

        All these people “rediscovering” old tech like we didn’t abandon it for a reason. No, I don’t want to build a PC out of old Commodore 64s that barely works and needs to be coded in assembly when I can literally get a mini PC that’s 100x more powerful for $120.

      • @[email protected]
        1•6 months ago

        XMPP doesn’t have link previews or posting, photo albums, even the idea of a picture with caption text us foreign. No comment reaction, retraction or replies. Inline video or video stream, lol no, even gifs don’t work. Talking or video chat ? Not even in your dreams. No wonder the youths hang out on discord

        • poVoq
          2•6 months ago

          You are very outdated in your info about xmpp. Most of the stuff you mention is available these days.

          • @[email protected]
            1•6 months ago

            I manage the xmpp server of my friend group and we don’t have any of that in gajim conversation and siskin

            • poVoq
              2•6 months ago

              Gajim will have some more of that in the next version, Monocles or Cheogram have more modern features than Conversations and Siskin is very outdated feature wise and you should probably replace it with Monal.

              That said it is not true that the three clients you mentioned have none of that. Sure they don’t have all of it, and there is some feature mismatch between them, but you are making it sound much worse than it is.

              Oh and you can always use Movim which has most of the features you mentioned.

              • @[email protected]
                1•6 months ago

                Thanks, I told the ios users to give monal a try. One responded it didn’t work last time he tried. I will try the android app.

                I think the most annoying is tge lack of opengraph support, bot or server side if it has to be. But no url preview suuuuuucks

        • @bamficEnglish
          0•6 months ago

          I don’t give a shit about any of those things. I’m fine with chat that just doea chat.

          • @[email protected]
            -1•6 months ago

            I think the few remaining devs agree with you. We think this suck & look forward to whatever comes next. Xmpp is stuck in the past.

    • AJ SadauskasOP
      1•6 months ago

      @fishos I’m honoured to still be considered part of the younger generations, given the first time I used ICQ was around 1997…