Why YSK: Choosing an instance with defederation policies you’re most comfortable with is important to make your Fediverse experience smooth in the long run.
Here is a chart showing the defederation count of each instance.
| Instance | Defederated with how many other instances |
|---|---|
| beehaw.org | 405 |
| feddit.de | 101 |
| lemmy.world | 63 |
| lemmy.ml | 44 |
| sh.itjust.works | 4 |
| exploding-heads.com | 3 |
You can get it by going to the instance’s instance list and scrolling/Ctrl+Fing down to “Blocked Instances”. To find the instance list, go to https://your-instance.url/instances, for example, https://lemmy.world/instances
Why is beehaw so high?
When they defederated from lemmy.world, the stated reason was the open registration policy. Their registration process is handled manually. I suspect that they operate a much tighter ship when it comes to moderation. This has it perks and problems.
I tried to sign up to check it out, but apparently the essay I had to write pledging my undying commitment to a community I had not even experienced yet was insufficient to be accepted. Their loss.
Mine was the same. I am generally a nice person, I just want a nice place to comment to people, talk about gaming, cars/motorcycles, animals and technology but I wasn’t good enough somehow. I literally wrote a paragraph. No idea what I had to say to get in.
I’m just a derpysmilingcat, I’m not evil lol
It could be their goal is not to be folks primary casual browsing instance, so just being someone that is stopping in to hang out isn’t quite what they are looking for.
Same happened to me! I figured I’d find an instance hosted closer to my home anyway and I found this little instance that I’ve really enjoyed.
IDK, I don’t feel like I had to say that much to get in with my alt. I just wrote about how I liked having some more heavily moderated spaces to discuss sensitive topics. I even mentioned that I planned to maintain an alt to access less moderated spaces, just that I also intended to respect the culture and the vibe of Beehaw when interacting there.
I signed up and my blurb was very short and basically said that I like bunnies and they have some nice looking communities including one about pets. Got approved. It was basically what I just wrote so I don’t know why others are being declined.
Everywhere else something like “I like to make electronics projects and play with computers.” is sufficient.
They are trying to create a “Safe and friendly place”.
They started with a commonly shared fediverse block list a lot of mastodon instances and stuff start up with. Since they’ve also defederated some instances that allow child porn, some political extreme instances, and some very large instances they couldn’t moderate the influx from.
They also defederated from instances that have open sign-ups because they allow bots to join too easily. This included lemmy.world.
That’s what I meant with the last part
The most unpleasant people I’ve encountered here have all come from lemmy.world, so perhaps this wasn’t such a bad move for them.
Pretty sure there are no significant instances that allow child porn.
That would depend if you think lolicon or hentai of canonically underage characters in general is CP or not.
Doesn’t matter in the case of Beehaw though because they defederate from any instance that allows pornographic NSFW content of any kind period - as do probably a majority of instances, at least until Lemmy creates better filtering systems.
Beehaw federates with porn instances like lemmynsfw.com
Indeed. Hence, no one was all that bothered by the defederation from a large list of small instances with problem material. The question is “why is the number so high” and that’s a large part of it
there probably aren’t any big ones, but i bet there’s lots of tiny ones
Given how illegal it is I bet there aren’t that many small ones either. Probably a fair amount riding a grey area though.
With the federation system, if you run a Lemmy instance and one of your users subscribes to an instance that hosts CP, does your own server end up hosting CP? Or does Lemmy tell the browser to retrieve the actual content directly from the original server?
My understanding is that the image is still hosted wherever it is normally (probably the original Lemmy instance) but everything else from the post and comments come over. I’m not sure how well that would fly in a court when you can still access it via
yourinstance.com/c/cp@badinstance.com.I think the caching of federated instances means that you’d be hosting the CP at least I n thumbnail form.