• @FlowVoid
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    07 months ago

    As I said, I think the vast majority of people who have lost a child do not ever want to debate whether the death was justified. Furthermore plenty of other people - Palestinian or otherwise - do not want to engage in a debate over Israel.

    I have no idea how many people in the rest of the world agree with Israel, and it doesn’t matter to me at all. I don’t think it affects whether they are justified. There are plenty of things that are not justified even though they are very popular, and vice versa.

    • Flying SquidM
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      17 months ago

      Sorry… you think moral justification does not depend on what the majority considers to be morally justified?

      Where does it come from, your god?

      • @FlowVoid
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        07 months ago

        Morality usually comes from some sort of first principles. Some are religiously inspired, but I think it’s much better to start with one or more moral philosophers.

        If we simply put it to a vote, then we would likely conclude that slavery was moral in the 18th century.

        • Flying SquidM
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          27 months ago

          Which moral philosopher says that it’s justified to kill thousands of children to achieve military goals?

          • @FlowVoid
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            -17 months ago

            Plenty, going back at least as far as Augustine to modern writers like Michael Walzer.

            • Flying SquidM
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              27 months ago

              Feel free to quote one of them saying so.

              • @FlowVoid
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                7 months ago

                Philosophers rarely give good soundbites.

                If you are actually interested in a summary of Just War theory and its critics, you can find one here.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  17 months ago

                  A quick search shows that children are not mentioned.

                  • @FlowVoid
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                    07 months ago

                    Children are noncombatants, try searching for that.